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Old 19th July 2009, 01:32 PM   #41
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Re: Old f4g posts for UO guilds on europa

Importing it all into the freebie MyBB, seems to have gotten a better result, ironically

F4G Net Restored Data

I've managed to remove all the forums with no data
I've restored the proper post/thread count as well as the usernames who created the threads etc.

If anyone would like a copy of this intact database, I can provide it
You'll need an install of MyBB to make it work like I have.
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Old 19th July 2009, 02:51 PM   #42
 
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Re: Old f4g posts for UO guilds on europa

Hail,
First of all I would like to salute the person who wrote this script in such a short time that is able to extract so much of the data in precise manner.

I've checked the script and here are my preliminary findings. There is definetly room for improvment. It would seem (take this affirmation with precaution) that the script didn't support all the skin html patterns in the raw html and sometimes haven't parsed them correctly, even might have parsed only one some of the available page patterns.

One example might be this thread from the old KH forum that I've found in the original raw data but not on the BB :
Forums4Games > Ultima Online Entrance > UO Hosted Guilds > Europa Roleplaying Entrance > Knights Hospitaller > Knights Hospitaller > Umbra attacks the Knighthood!

It does not appear anywhere in the salvaged BB (although copy/pasted posts from it are in the reports to the grandmistress). It would appear that either this page was skipped for some reason or the script didnt look at the pages with the [Archive] tag. Anyway, to do it propertely and salvage ALL of the data present in the raw dump will take more time and fine tuning as Adam said. The dates are recoverable.

To get all the data the script needs to be extended to parse all the data, match the archive and regular threads and merge the different pages (in case we have page 1 of a thread as regular and page 2 as archive).

So to conclude I belive we can get more precise and more complete data from this.

I'll look more into this and try to see whether I can dedicate some time into this in the coming weeks (my wife sure won't be happy).

I'll keep you guys posted.

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Old 19th July 2009, 04:13 PM   #43
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Hmm nice
IF you need access to anything server wise, let me know
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All right, after careful evaluation I may have some time to spare over this summer to work on the data but I ask the following from the community. Everybody who would like to see the data in their full available state please post a small message on this thread and based on the number of responses I will make the final decision whether letting this be at the current state or taking time to improve it. The partial data have been available for nearly 24 hours and not many people have acessed it so far. It would be suboptimal to spend my time over something nobody will use.

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Old 20th July 2009, 08:28 AM   #45
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Re: Old f4g posts for UO guilds on europa

I think the only fields we need back, are the date/times of threads/posts
And of course, any threads/posts which haven't been imported
Not sure why it seemed to skip some, heh
But yea, it's only really worth it if people actually WANT it done.
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Old 20th July 2009, 08:38 AM   #46
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I would browse through it, out of casual interest, but I think its a question to put to the europa RP guilds.
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Old 21st July 2009, 03:04 AM   #47
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Re: Old f4g posts for UO guilds on europa

Id just like to respond to Murads question of wether it is worth his time to perfect the data further.

I'd first like to thank Murad for saving the data when he had the opportunity a few years back.

Secondly a big thankyou to Adam for providing a format to show the data and doing what needed to be done for it to be available to read.

I am part of a group on Face Book of old Europa Players [ mostly CORE] and I am going to check shortly that it is posted there about the F4g forums,so people can come see what is here.I am sure there will be interested parties there.

I am also sure Moturdn who now hosts F4g will be interested.

Gendin now is guild leader of KT and I am sure he will have an interest.He has been away on holiday till yesterday i think, so may not of seen the forum, so Ill make sure he knows about it .

ALso Irvyn of Trinsic will most likely have an interest also.

Most are available to contact via UOForums,so I will let as many as I can find know to come and post.

For me personally it is great to get back any history of Tabbitha's time in UO.I have read quite a few of the pages but havent had a great deal of time to spend there at the moment ,as I am moving house Friday and as you can imagine,have a few things more urgent than reading forums .

I think its great what has been achieved so far,but would not want anyone to be using their free time in a way that caused a problem.

I think anyone who wants some thing more than has been provided should post here asap.

Other than that I,for one, am grateful of what has been done already and can at least now save what I wanted to from what has been made available.

Again a BIG THANKYOU to you both !!!!
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Re: Old f4g posts for UO guilds on europa

I'd be interesting for definate in a version of the data in it's full state, but I also understand what it's like to spend a lot of time on something that nobody will use (I do expect quite a few people wanting the data however). As mentioned earlier I'm available to provide help if you need me

I'd also like to express a great big thank you to all involved parties.
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Old 21st July 2009, 06:50 AM   #49
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Thank you for this It is very nice to see some of those old posts back
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