Lord Nabin 587 Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Purchased 200 mil via paypal recieved gold and disputed transaction Mike Crateicq - Age: 40, icq#: mickeym282 Paypal Information is as follows kevin olsonvegasvkng@clear.netShipping address kevin olson3568 Taos LaneLas Vegas, NV 89121United States Scam Mike Crate10:43 AM Hail Nabin10:43 AM hello friend Scam Mike Crate10:44 AM Was wondering if you still had funds available on atlantic shard? Nabin10:44 AM yep Nabin10:44 AM how much are you looking for Scam Mike Crate10:44 AM More then likley about 200m Nabin10:44 AM okies Nabin10:45 AM let me finish brokering a trade here and I will be right with you Scam Mike Crate10:45 AM Alrighty then Nabin10:45 AM do you have a vendor somehwere Scam Mike Crate10:46 AM No both my chars are reds on atlantic but i have a blue for shopping Scam Mike Crate10:46 AM i can try to place a vendor somewhere Nabin10:46 AM do you have a house Scam Mike Crate10:46 AM not currenty, trying to get a mag house in fel Nabin10:46 AM oh never mind Nabin10:46 AM I jsut xfered gold to atl its already packed up Scam Mike Crate10:46 AM oh okay Nabin10:47 AM ok send $110 usd via paypal Nabin10:47 AM I will be done in a few minutes here Nabin10:53 AM ok are your funds sent Nabin11:07 AM ok checking in with you frined Scam Mike Crate11:16 AM sorry had tyo get my kid from the bus stop Nabin11:16 AM no problem friend Nabin11:17 AM ok did you get the info on how to send funds Scam Mike Crate11:17 AM yes going now, totally forgot what time it was lol Nabin11:17 AM lol Nabin11:18 AM i do that too Scam Mike Crate11:24 AM sorry its making me reverify so give me a moment Nabin11:24 AM np Scam Mike Crate11:27 AM okay confirmed sending now Nabin11:28 AM okies I am just getting un packed Scam Mike Crate11:30 AM okay all sent and ready to goNabin11:31 AM ok come upstairs and be ready to take 200 items Nabin11:31 AM i am almost ready Scam Mike Crate11:31 AM okay ill be on pro newblet Nabin11:33 AM ok I will be on Nabin Nabin11:33 AM go in the room with the packies Scam Mike Crate11:33 AM alright there. Nabin11:34 AM ok I am going to friend you to two of these packies and you can pull the boxes with your gold out or I can just hand you the packies Nabin11:34 AM whichever you preffer Scam Mike Crate11:35 AM either or doesnt matter Scam Mike Crate11:36 AM crashed Nabin11:36 AM lol Nabin11:36 AM los of gold Nabin11:37 AM excellent Nabin11:37 AM thanks friend Scam Mike Crate11:37 AM thank you sir Nabin11:37 AM if you would be so kind as to post some positive feedback i would do the same for you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Nabin 587 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Results with Paypal were the funds were return on the spot to me. Here is the email recieved from scammer From: kevin olson [mailto:kcols@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 5:35 PMTo: XXXXXX@yahoo.comSubject: non delivery of items i see you told paypal i recieved my 400 mil in gold.. but i didnt and if by chance you transferd it to someone you thought was me,thats not my problem,i waited for over an hour to recieve it.and you never icq'd me back.....i did take the precaution of printing our entire conversation and i will go to bank in the morning and file a report with them..this isnt over yet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Nabin 587 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 my response to said email From: Lord Nabin [mailto:lordnabin@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 5:45 PMTo: 'kevin olson'Subject: RE: non delivery of items Great send it all to me. I will review it and if your right I will refund you your money. I have never missed delivered a purchase. I have however dealt with many people who have tried to take advantage of others. Lord Nabin High Council SageAncinet Conclave of WisdomICQ 248-636-691lordnabin@yahoo.com Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Nabin 587 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 When he disputes this with his Bank if they do anything Paypal will represent me and fight for my dollars. All the documentation is in paypals hands in regards to this scam and they are tracking the account. It does tie up your funds for awhile as the bank or credit card company has 30 days to repond but I heve never lost one of these. Just passing on another example of the extent a scammer will go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Citizenbushido 9 Posted April 13, 2011 Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Man, I hate people like that. Keep fighting the good fight Nabin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lord Nabin 587 Posted April 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2011 Almost 24 hours no response to my return email. If this was not a scam I would have expected a response to my offer of reinbursement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Deaol 131 Posted April 16, 2011 Report Share Posted April 16, 2011 This happened to me aswell Nabin only a week ago.. I wonder if it was the same person using a different alt/icq/paypal account (player sent money, I delievered the gold and had them verify via icq and in game it was them.... got gold in game than disputed only minutes after receiving) I logged the entire ICQ conversation, such as you did, took screen shots in game aswell and submitted it. Paypal came back and said the person in question could not dispute the claim based on it was a "Virtual Goods" transaction and thanked me for sending in supporting documentation of the incident anyways. Good luck! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Citizenbushido 9 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Is there a way to sell something via paypal where it can not be disputed? I thought that if you told the buyer who is sending the money to click "gift" then it could not be disputed? Is this true? I've never sold gold. I only buy stuff with paypal, and I have never sold with paypal so I dont know. I just hate seeing people screwed & some times I think there are more scamers in UO that good people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corvak 3,282 Posted April 18, 2011 Report Share Posted April 18, 2011 Not really. Systems like the feedback and this forum exist to help protect buyers and sellers. Otherwise, the only tip I can give is to limit the size of your transactions to new clients, to prevent big losses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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