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As stupid as a pig can be, I was scammed twice by 2 persons in 1-2 months time.

Why is it so difficult to be honest? I guess it is just human nature to be greedy.

The first case happened on Nov 30th when I agree to buy 2 accounts for USD 250 from this person. It was really a very fast transaction as he said he really needed the money in 2 days. Like a pig, I believed him. I gotten him to send me an invoice for the transaction which include his real life name, address, and telephone. As usual, I had all the ICQ conversations recorded. After the money was sent, I gave him the MTCN via ICQ then after I had no more reply. Straight away, I felt so disappointed and stupid.

The second case make me felt very disppointed and sad.

I HOPE ALL PEOPLE IN UO WILL BE AWARE OF THIS PERSON.

I think many people know him He is the person whom I lended him the LUNA plot which was in LUNA, right at WEST GATE. The one which is the Casino & Auction House run by the guild BCC.

The Casino is recently interview by stratic, just in case you do not which one it is. It is on news in Great Lakes on Stratic.

Just yesterday, he told me he did not enough money to pay for his internet connection and he had talked to the ISP to allow him a few more months to pay. But it was already due but he still did not have enough money to settle the bill. Looking at the successful opening of the casino and the auction, he asked me to help him with that.

He offered me a list of rares for USD 225. And he also agreed to buy them back for USD 300 after 2 weeks. Like always, I asked him to send me an invoice with all those details. But this time I asked for a cell phone number. He gave me. I sent a text message to him to verify that he had the cell phone.

Then today, after I gave him the MTCN and the password to collect the payment, he started to make up a story. He said while he was at WU, the staff there told him the payment was collected.

According to WU procedure, the person who is collecting the payment will have to produce an identification card for verification. Without that, you will not get the payment. Furthermore, the payment I send has a password to it. Which means, the person not only need to provide an identity card but also the password for the collection.

I sent him the MTCN and password via text message by cell phone at 1:17pm Michigan time. Then I try to get him on ICQ, but no reply. Then around 1:30pm i gotten a reply from him asking if i had sent the payment. So I told him I had sent the MTCN to him via text message, but he said he did not receive. So I send it again via ICQ. Soon after I given him all the details, he said he needed like 1 hr travelling time, to and fro, and asked me to wait.

Then when he finally ICQ me again at around 3:30pm, he told me WU said the payment was collected.

It is not about how much I lost due to being too stupid to trust just anyone over the internet. It is the kind of disppointment when you place your trust on that person and in return that person betray you.

I will like stratics to take note of this. I hope all other UO Forums & Sites will take note of this person.

 

A PERSON AS CUNNING AS HE IS, IS REALLY SCARY.

 

I never thought of a person can be so good to you at one moment will stab you to death next moment.

Should I be reporting this to the police? I know there are several website which people can lodge a complain for internet fraud.

 

I HOPE AND WISH NO ONE ELSE WILL MAKE THE MISTAKES I MAKE.

 

 

ICQ ME 376222584 IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO IT IS. I HAVE ALL INFOS RECORDED. ICQ HISTORY AND EMAILS.

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From a buyers perspective, Paypal is great if you're buying virtual items, assuming you use a credit card, because if Paypal refuse to reverse a transaction citing their terms and conditions not applying, you go to the credit card company.

 

Not sure if it applies to ALL credit card companies, but I've had to reverse a couple of transactions in the past due to non delivery and the CC company were most helpful and reversed the payments.

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I HOPE AND WISH NO ONE ELSE WILL MAKE THE MISTAKES I MAKE.

 

 

ICQ ME 376222584 IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO IT IS. I HAVE ALL INFOS RECORDED. ICQ HISTORY AND EMAILS.

 

I'll be sending you a message. I'll get his name out on boards, I can assure you of that. In the meantime, please, file a police report.

 

You can definitely crush him with the fbi/police.

 

Trust me on this one.;)

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Worth pointing out, Paypal is only slightly more secure

People get ripped off pretty badly with Paypal as well, because there's no proof of delivery for a virtual item.

 

Sorry for double-posting, but there IS a work-around for this.

 

"Classic Ball-Point-Pen, comes with FREE UO account. Both items are included as a bundle and cannot be separated. Refunds only accepted if BOTH items are returned in the condition described",ect.

 

I used to see this a lot when ebay was a big thing for UO. ;)

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I hate to be the spoilsport here, but if the person lived somewhere like Texas, the 'law' won't help you. It was a loan, you gave it to them in good faith, and even though there was an expectation, if there was no signed contract (esigning doesn't work) there is no legal claim. I couldn't do jack when a 'friend' was using a cell phone on my account and then bailed with the phone and a really high bill. I couldn't even report the phone as stolen. >< The best you can hope for is a small claims suit. This wasn't like an ebay scam, this was this person giving out of the goodness, and being taken advantage of. :(

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Paypal is the way to go when doing online transactions because you can open a dispute with the buyer/seller if you are afraid you have been scammed and they wont be able to access the funds until you say the dispute has been resolved and you close the dispute through paypal.

 

Ive been through it twice now in the last couple months with purchases Ive made for virtual items in UO and both times I have opened disputes the seller has had to get in contact with me so they can get their money,, it really damages their credibility when this happens because I demand I get the items before I close the dispute out so they effectively put the ball in my court and I hold all the cards when they do not deliver according to the terms they always advertise.....

 

Use PAYPAL!!!!!

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There really is nothing you can do to help yourself legally... Its not a high dollar amount to be fed and there is nothing but a invoice for proof. I own a small biz and Ive learned that if its more money than you care to lose contract everything and use a reliable 3rd party. Ive had bad luck with paypal but in the end my Credit company reversed the charges for me.

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