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Old 7th January 2006, 03:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A request to EA

As posted on stratics by me:

EA,



I have been playing this game since before AoS. To tell you the truth, I really DONT CARE that you all have changed the whole pvp scene to a newer way. Yes its crappy, the needing to have high quality items to be a high quality pvper, but that isnt what this is about.

What happened last patch? Bushido was supposed to be changed to do "normal" damage. What it does is the SAME as before the patch. Whats going on with this lag? Have you all opened up one too many faccets? Felucca and its people, are the core of your game. Without them, you wouldve never had the money to think about these expansions you all have done now. WE made this game famous. Times were good. Then came the three lettered nightmare. AoS.

We coped with it, and learned to deal with it. The items and artifacts were a new things, but many of us were able to deal with it.

The 4/6 casting was horrible. Youd have to be rich to have it. But we all know EA has fixed bug after bug. From the para lightning para lightning to some of todays bugs like word of death.

But my point here is, why cant EA focus atleast ONE whole publish to the faccet which brought UO alive? All of us here pvping are struggling. Well those who arent using the bugs are atleast. The fact that we have archers who swing faster than a mage mini heal with 2/6 casting (the cap) and do 80+ damage killing us instantly, should make you all try to fix this. It should make you all think more about what everyone, what ever skill does in PvP. In this case, archers take the point of PvP away. It should now be named, BnA. Bushido n' Archery.

Also, the lag in this game is unbearable. Atleast in my opinion it is. I think its time you all forget about making new facets and expansions, and try to make the old ones better. But this time with the people of the faccet. Im not sure if you all have any idea of how many people who used to pvp left this game because of the crap it is now. I know friends who play certain shards that well lets say EA doesnt own. (Name will not be said because of RoC). And well, they wish they could come back to OSI, but they wont. Not until the PvP is fixed.

If EA is going to tweak PvP as much as they have, why not just give us something to make it all almost even.

DO any of you play mages? I mean do any of you that can actually do something, play mages? Or do you leave it all up to archers now?

Give me and the people of not only Sonoma but the people of Ultima Online 10 things that make magery overpowered.

If you can find 10 legitimate reasons, I atleast will stop arguing about this. But right now I can think of why Archers are overpowered. That only takes one reason:
1. 85 Damage 3 out of 10 hits, one hit per second, 25 damage every other hit.

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10 reasons why mages arent overpowered?

1. Mages Fizzle disrupting whatever they are doing, giving the opponent time to keep at offense.
2. Using Protection not being able to fizzle, lowers your casting drastically. Giving the opponent more time to kill you if they can do 85 damage per second.
3. Mages cannot heal through poison, unlike Necromancers and Bushido's
4. Mages cannot heal themselves without having to worry about getting disrupted. Those with Healing and Bushido can heal without disruption.
5. Mages cannot increase their healing range by using a fountain to soak their reagents in. Those with healing can.
6. Mages are not invised forever until moving. It times out.
7. Without LRC, Mages cannot fight unlimited. They must get reagents.
8. Mages take skill, when I say skill, I don't mean click and drag. Mages must know which spell to use, when to use it, how to work with timing, and calculate damage in a combo. Dexxers are simple click and run.
9. When mages die, if being reskilled, they must have reagents, if they have LRC, they must wait to have their entire suit on, before being able to try and combat the reskill. Dexxers are able to equip their weapon and strike the opponent, Not as hard or as accurate as they would with armor, but if a mage is reskilling them, they can make the mage fissle. Using UO assist, allows the dexxers to fight while putting on their armor with the dress macro.
10. Making a mage suit to fit today's pvp standards is a MISSION. Having LRC, LMC, MR, and SDI PLUS resists, including PHYSICAL due to all these archers.
I know I said it takes only one reason, but I decided to give you 10 reasons. Maybe this way you'll notice alittle more.

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10 Reasons why Archers are overpowered:
1. Archers can hit at a range, without having to cast. Their shots cannot be disrupted. Mages CAN hit at a range, but can be interrupted.
2. Archers can run and shoot and heal at the same time. Mages are limited to one action at a time.
3. If equiped with a bushido skill, archers are able to use Band-Aids for timed healing, and use bushido to heal through poison.
4. If equipped with Bushido, archers may hit 24 damage a hit and 60-90 damage 3 out of 10 hits.
5. If equipped with one of the new magical short bows or with SSI or Dex increase, archers can hit once per second or maybe once per half a second, not sure. If equipped with bushido and have the SSI or dex increase, archers could hit 60-90 damage once per second.
6. If equipped with bushido, an archer can shield the spells of a mage, being able to heal, and shoot 60-90 damage at the same time.
7. If equipped with faster casting and chivalry, at 4/6 casting, archers can cure faster than mages can heal or cure, while shooting at the same time.
8. With HCI and Dexterity Bonus, archers can hit you For sure, once every second.
9. If equipped with Bushido, archers may increase their hits drastically one hit after another by using Honor. ( Not saying that only archers can do this, or do what I explained with bushido, but archers are the only ones to do this at a range.)
10. If equipped with a hit spell weapon and Bushido, archers can do 60-90 damage plus a fireball, lightning, or magic arrow. Sometimes being able to kill the opponent with the hit spell.
I find this sort of ridiculous. Ok, not sort of, I find this REALLY ridiculous. I am not only on the mages side, but COME ON BALANCE PVP ONCE AGAIN.

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The lag:

Ok, the lag is another problem. During PvP, lag is like a virus. If you cant move, and you freeze, if your fighting an archer, forget it. You are dead. Dueling? Did you lag? well, lag while you duel, even if its another mage, probably like a good 40% chance of staying alive. Id say much better than lagging against a bushido archer.

I want to know whats causing it. This lag got 10x worse with the release of Mondains Legacy. Yes some people are fine with it. But those people pay tons for their internet or live in a place where well, they ping magnificently. Ive been on DSL for a LONG TIME. When AoS came out I had Dial-Up. Jesus christ, I couldn't move one bit. And thats how I feel now while using DSL which I never had a problem with.

Ive lived in the same place since I started playing UO, so its not where I am living, because I was doing fine before. Are you all putting out too many expansions, quests or faccets, that you clutter the game in a whole? Or is it just Sonoma?

I dont find the need to pay 12.99 which you all INCREASED by the way. It used to be 9.99, and have to pay for a top of the line internet in my area ranging for 50-60.00 just to be able to play this game, when I used to be able to do it with Dial-Up and was running extremely fast with DSL. And now well, DSL is worse or equal to the connection to UO I had with Dial-Up.

Its not my computer, Ive reformatted, kept things I only need, it matches the requirements on the box of Ultima Online, and I used a much older computer before.

So whats going on guys? Whats the deal? You all RAISE the prices of the game by about 3.00 a month, release various expansions (atleast once a year) that we MUST buy in order to play the game in full, then give us crappy support ingame and out of game, and give us tons of bugs that make us all want to grab the UO box and tear it into peices.

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Many people will oppose this thread, and some will go for it. I am expecting a flame feast on this thread. But hopefully this is heard. I would've posted this on U.Hall, but I play Sonoma, I encounter these problems on SONOMA, especially the lag.

Flame and Enjoy.

Thanks for the time whomever from EA reads this. It was a long post, and I am sure its not fun to read, but its the truth.

~Cobra
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Old 7th January 2006, 06:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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God..

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Old 7th January 2006, 06:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well, I don't know. I think Cobra thought about it and presented it well. There are a few things I would have said differently...maybe a little less accusation. I don't PvP and my lag issues are because I am in Japan so...none of these issues really bug me. He expects to get "flamed" so I don't expect he will be upset by tough criticism.
I feel the dev team is doing a pretty good job and I don't mind the expansions that much. Again, the tone is the only thing that throws me off from this post.

Almost forgot...I don't expect most folks want "flaming" here because we don't want to turn into one of those other boards.
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Old 7th January 2006, 07:58 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I think he presented the post well. The lag issues are only partly based on the game/servers but more based on your connection so nothing can be done about it. But in regards to the PVP problems, I think he presented it well.
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Old 7th January 2006, 08:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I really don't see the point in this whole thread... EA knows about the problems with PvP.. they are working the best they can to get the majorities opinions on what needs to be done.

a couple things, first, the death of Fel happened with pub 16 and the introduction of Trammel.. and second, EA is not going to role back the clock for you. you have two choices.. deal with it or quit. AoS was more the rebirth of the game than the death.. a lot of people liked it a lot of people don't... you obviously don't.. so quit..

I'm of the opinion that archers are overpowered as well.. but guess what.. everyone knows this.. EA knows this, PvPers know this.. hell with the way people !!!!! about it the fricking kid down the block who has never heard of UO knows this.. THEY ARE WORKING ON IT.

you talk about mages.. they aren't overpowered.. they are pretty balanced. they are the only skill set, IMHO that requires skill.. and if you are really skilled as a mage... i mean really skilled.. the even tho PvP is screwed up.. you can still hold your own. if your not that skilled.. well.. thats not EAs fault is it?

I honestly have no idea what you are trying to accomplish with this post.. do you think your pointing out some huge oversight? do you think this is some kinda of revelation that has gone unnoticed in the world of UO? I mean really whats the point of this besides to ride the asses of the people doing their best to correct problems that have piled up over the years?

the devs and EA are doing the best they can... they keep us informed and they work hard to sort though all of this BS to find the serious problems that need solutions. posts like these are a waste of their time because it isn't providing any new data...

but whatever... welcome to stratics may i take your order?
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Old 7th January 2006, 08:01 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Well flutter, do you pvp? If you did PvP, youd be mad about it aswell. Unless you were one of those archers.
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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
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D:\>ping sonoma.owo.com

Pinging central-aw4.owo.com [159.153.209.42] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 159.153.209.42: bytes=32 time=156ms TTL=51
Reply from 159.153.209.42: bytes=32 time=152ms TTL=51
Reply from 159.153.209.42: bytes=32 time=149ms TTL=51
Reply from 159.153.209.42: bytes=32 time=150ms TTL=51

Ping statistics for 159.153.209.42:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 149ms, Maximum = 156ms, Average = 151ms

Sorry you feel that way. But well, if you think its an excuse so be it, I could care less.
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I'm of the opinion that archers are overpowered as well.. but guess what.. everyone knows this.. EA knows this,



but whatever... welcome to stratics may i take your order?
Id like a large french fries and a bottle of cola.

EA said that mages were overpowered. I am not sure of the thread, but when I find it, I will sure present it.
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Greetings all, and happy new year!

Lots of good feedback in this thread, just as I hoped there would be. It's been pointed out that throwing a mystery feature up on TC and skipping town was probably not the best choice from a communication standpoint. I agree -- the only reason I did it was because I wanted to have something new up on the PVP TC over the holidays, and had approximately zero time to do it (between getting pub 38 out, planning pub 39, and the time absorbed by my own personal holiday plans). It's not how I intend to operate on a regular basis.

Some of you have mentioned hp are now too high. Someone else seconded this and called for a nerf to high-powered items. In fact, raising hp *is* the item nerf. Since AoS we have been introducing abilities and items that stack freely, raising the stakes in terms of how much damage you can dish out, without a commensurate increase in the amount of damge you can *take*.

The point of the non-linear increase was to favor dexxers and give them back an edge they have lost in recent years. I should have thought that one through a little better :-|. Someone suggested an average of Str and Dex, which I think is an interesting idea to try next.

The question of healing also came up. I agree that at 250 hp, it's too easy to walk around casting Greater Heal on yourself and never die. I do plan to address this problem, most likely by reducing the efficacy of subsequent heals within a period of time.
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you talk about mages.. they aren't overpowered..
He made an error in the earlier part of his post. He said that mages were over powered and then gave 10 reasons why they were NOT overpowered.

Generally speaking, please watch how things are phrased... agree with his post or not, theres no reason for anyone to be rude.
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I didn't realize I was being rude.. I was merely trying to determine why we need this post as it seems painfully obvious that everyone knows about these problems and it frustrates me to see them reiterated time and again.
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Your ping time is horrible
Run a trace route.
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My pings have been in the low 300's out here...but I am on the little island of Okinawa...kind of the hill billies of Japan. Well, at least that is what I have heard. I can't tell because they all speak Japanese. On a good day I get pings that are in the low 100's.

I don't know much about this argument or the purpose. I think he was just sharing what he posted on another forum and wanted some other opinions. I just wish the pure warrior were more powerful...they probably are but I am too much of a goober to figure it out. Can this be considered a rant?
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