Working ninja to go on my thief purely for evasion purposes (smoke bomb & shadowjump). I have a few questions:

1. At what skill level will I not fail to cast shadowjump (I know the success of the jump is tied to my stealth skill).

2. Is my ability to cast shadowjump tied to the skill use timer like stealth is to hiding? I'm trying to figure out if I can smokebomb + shadowjump immediately.

3. Anybody experiment around to determine if the success of a shadowjump increases meaningfully as stealth skill goes above GM?

TIA

You need at least 50 skill to shadow jump, I'm not sure what level will guarantee no failure. I checked stratics and got nothing there, either. As far as throwing a bomb and shadow jumping, just give it a try and see -- that's the only way you will know.

I don't use smoke bombs on my stealther, maybe I should start doing. At least its another way that I can evade dying so much to those pesky mages. REX ure only adding yourself to that horrible category, lol. I'm gonna use poison sheikens when I get my poisoning skill high enough. I have a GM alchemist To use shadow jump I'd say you need around 75 skill. But I'd go for GM so you can use the other spells if you have a weapon skill. Shadowjump has no timer. Its just like the mage spell invis. But one small problem, you have to be in stealth mode to jump. So after you throw the smoke bomb, you'll need to take at least one step before it will allow you to cast shadow jump. So you might as well just stealth away. I recommend have GM hiding and 115 Stealth. with 75 Nujitsu. That should do ya. Good luck

Thanks, Unsupportable.

Your welcome, and welcome to the forums.

Man, I haven't PvP with a mage since 2001, don't expect me to be "anything" until I practice, practice, practice.

I might even ICQ ya for some practice duels at Jhelom Farms when I am done. My goal is to be done with this toon by x-mas.

Well, my thief is at about 83 Ninjitsu and still does fail occasionally. Not very often though; I prolly have around a 95% success rate. Also, the success of the jump that is dependent on Stealth is just that you will stay hidden when you get to your spot.

A point about Stealth: when you get to 80 Stealth, you will never fail to stealth in meddable armor. You will have a greater chance to be passively (or actively) revealed by players/monsters but its something worth mentioning if your template gets crowded...

Smokebombs only hide you and Shadowjump is a Stealth ability so you will need to at least take on step before you can use Shadowjump.

This will only come into play if you are Shaodwjumping to get right next to a player as you will have to make a stealth check against their Detect Hidden (and all Elves have a natural 40 points in detect hidden, Humans only20 from JoaT.

Dont forget about Ninjitsus Animal Forms. Once you hit 75 you will be able to plymorph into an Ostard or Llama and can move at a mounted walk while stealthing

Or, you can have your char's name as a comma or something small, not sure what the min length is. If in rabbit form you mite not get noticed as much. Especially if your aiming to steal off the protector at spawns. Your best using a blue char, blue are the one that will be handing in scrolls. Again less likely to be noticed. Turn off your guild tag. I mite make a theif to do just this. I probably wouldn't even wear armor, just clothes.

Yeah, Ive seen a few chars named "a rabbit" or "a rat" and Im sure that they had this same exact idea in mind...

There is even a char on Cats named "Jerry the Minter" which definitely opens up some interesting possibilities at Fel banks