Dong Dong the death bell sounds.....

Damage inc. · 09-06-2006, 03:12 PM

For true rares collectors. EA cannot control the duping of rares at the moment and they are being duped out of control. The only way they cant be duped is for the owner of a unique item to hide it and not show it. Wilki says about deleting these items (or reverting them) but basically EA cant even track em or dont know how its done and EA also say its ok to trade these items so our game is going down the drain. I am told uo gold on ebay is now as little as $1.8 per million as the game is awash with duped items and gold.
WAKE UP EA, your oldest mmorpg is disappearing rapidly yet you sit and watch it.

**Tabbitha** · 09-06-2006, 03:47 PM

what do you mean by duping rares ?

Ly-Las · 09-06-2006, 03:59 PM

Making copies of them

09-06-2006, 04:07 PM

Its like counterfeiting money.. it looks real, but its worthless and, in some cases, illegal to own or make.

Gwenyth · 09-06-2006, 04:08 PM

Is this something new? I've heard about duping in the past, but nothing recently and I've never heard about rares being duped, only Doom arties.

Skatha · 09-06-2006, 04:10 PM

Sounds like dupers and farming is going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg.......

what a shame..........

Flutter · 09-06-2006, 04:59 PM

Wilki says that buying, selling or trading these items is basically a break of the UO ROC
Here.

Quote:

think it's safe to say that anything that can be tied to the word "dupe" is not something that players should be buying or trading amongst each other.

From the UO Rules of Conduct:

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You will not intentionally accept an item that has been “bugged” or otherwise manipulated outside of the designed game mechanics from anyone inside or outside the game world. The Ultima Online team has the right to confiscate any such illegal items, without reparation, even if a player had no prior knowledge of the item’s origin.

Snowy · 09-06-2006, 07:31 PM

I wouldn't have a clue as to how to tell real from fake... even with what I already own.

Gwenyth · 09-06-2006, 09:30 PM

Me either

**Ezekiel** · 09-06-2006, 10:27 PM

from what I understand, in most instances duped items are identical to the real thing to any player char. GMs have the ability to further investigate items (on what levels I dont know) and examine their creation...

Good rule of thumb (just as in real life) if a deal sounds too good to be true, it probably is...

**Tabbitha** · 10-06-2006, 04:35 AM

that's awful,that people can do these things

I would not have a clue what was 'real' or not,either.Thank goodness I dont deal in them,!!!.

Zynia · 10-06-2006, 10:25 AM

Telling real from fake is simple. Take the event item shrouds for example, which seem to be the big fuss lately. The Violet Courage purple one, once home on Baja, read "Glorious Lady's - Shroud of the Champion" with 10 Physical Resist, and 5 Cold Resist, and is Blessed. The "duped" version of it would only have the rare color of the shroud, and read "Hooded Shroud of Shadows" with the weight. I'm pretty sure you can't bless them with a clothing bless deed, and I sure wouldn't waste an item bless on it so that isn't confirmed. But I know you can use a personal bless deed on the, by hovering these tacky colored game ruiners.

From what I know, here is a list of the duped items I've seen over on Great Lakes:

Invulnerability Blue Shroud
Violet Courage Purple Shroud
Dark Green Shroud

Hooded Shroud of Shadows, Shadow Dancer Black (look for the insured)
Hooded Shrouds of Umbra's, funny Green Color (look for the insured)

Glacial Hued Bandana (just says Bandana and normal resists)
Glacial Hued Long Pants (just says long pants)
Glacial Hued Spellbook (0 Spells, doesn't say Blessed)

Dark Bluish/Teal Spellbook (Again, 0 Spells, doesn't say Blessed)

And of course you can add in all the weapons.

I'm pretty sure anything wearable that's an "event item" is what they're copying. So the only suggestion is, if you have anything high in demand that's a special hue (Europa Guard Sashes too!) no matter how much they pay, keep them to yourselves, maybe this could stop them! These players have tons of gold and pretty much no limit!

Hope this helps.

09-06-2006, 03:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
Damage inc. Join Date: Mar 2006 Shard: europa Posts: 80 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Dong Dong the death bell sounds..... For true rares collectors. EA cannot control the duping of rares at the moment and they are being duped out of control. The only way they cant be duped is for the owner of a unique item to hide it and not show it. Wilki says about deleting these items (or reverting them) but basically EA cant even track em or dont know how its done and EA also say its ok to trade these items so our game is going down the drain. I am told uo gold on ebay is now as little as $1.8 per million as the game is awash with duped items and gold. WAKE UP EA, your oldest mmorpg is disappearing rapidly yet you sit and watch it.

09-06-2006, 03:47 PM	#2 (permalink)
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Ezekiel Wycorp--Dwarf Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Shard: Area 52 Posts: 2,761 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Dong Dong the death bell sounds..... from what I understand, in most instances duped items are identical to the real thing to any player char. GMs have the ability to further investigate items (on what levels I dont know) and examine their creation... Good rule of thumb (just as in real life) if a deal sounds too good to be true, it probably is... __________________

10-06-2006, 04:35 AM	#11 (permalink)
Tabbitha Administrator Join Date: Mar 2006 Shard: Europa Posts: 5,456 Thanks: 12 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Dong Dong the death bell sounds..... that's awful,that people can do these things I would not have a clue what was 'real' or not,either.Thank goodness I dont deal in them,!!!. __________________ Ultima Online: Tabbitha LOTR :Tabbitha Greywolfe Snowbourn The Shire

10-06-2006, 10:25 AM	#12 (permalink)
Zynia Join Date: Jul 2005 Shard: Great Lakes Posts: 404 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Dong Dong the death bell sounds..... Telling real from fake is simple. Take the event item shrouds for example, which seem to be the big fuss lately. The Violet Courage purple one, once home on Baja, read "Glorious Lady's - Shroud of the Champion" with 10 Physical Resist, and 5 Cold Resist, and is Blessed. The "duped" version of it would only have the rare color of the shroud, and read "Hooded Shroud of Shadows" with the weight. I'm pretty sure you can't bless them with a clothing bless deed, and I sure wouldn't waste an item bless on it so that isn't confirmed. But I know you can use a personal bless deed on the, by hovering these tacky colored game ruiners. From what I know, here is a list of the duped items I've seen over on Great Lakes: Invulnerability Blue Shroud Violet Courage Purple Shroud Dark Green Shroud Hooded Shroud of Shadows, Shadow Dancer Black (look for the insured) Hooded Shrouds of Umbra's, funny Green Color (look for the insured) Glacial Hued Bandana (just says Bandana and normal resists) Glacial Hued Long Pants (just says long pants) Glacial Hued Spellbook (0 Spells, doesn't say Blessed) Dark Bluish/Teal Spellbook (Again, 0 Spells, doesn't say Blessed) And of course you can add in all the weapons. I'm pretty sure anything wearable that's an "event item" is what they're copying. So the only suggestion is, if you have anything high in demand that's a special hue (Europa Guard Sashes too!) no matter how much they pay, keep them to yourselves, maybe this could stop them! These players have tons of gold and pretty much no limit! Hope this helps.

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