Time to fix Dismount

**Ally** · 5th March 2008, 02:20 PM

Posted on Stratics U.Hall

Death Adder's comment:

Pet balls were never really a legitimate defense anyway, IMO, but now that they're nerfed they are completely unsuitable as a response to Dismounting. Therefore, the "Dismount isn't unbalanced because you can counter it with petballs" argument is no longer just weak but completely untenable.

So, let's fix Dismount properly. The problem, as I see it, is the permanence of its effects. Sure, in theory there's only a 6 second remount delay. In practice it lasts forever because 1) if you're on an ethereal, the (ridiculous) 5-sec casting time makes it's impossible to remount one in combat, or 2) if you're on a live mount, it gets killed before the remount delay expires.

My solution? Make the effect temporary, instead of permanent. Change the effect of Dismounting such that it only slows the target down to walking speed for a set duration (in addition to the extra damage Dismount causes). Once the timer wears off, the target is back to full speed. This would make Dismount a strong tactic that must be aggressively and strategically applied, instead of the current over-powered nonsense that results in auto-kills by anyone smart enough to remember their name.

As a second possible solution, we might consider reducing the casting time for ethereals to something reasonable, like between 1 and 2 seconds.

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Oh, hey, I don't think Leurocian mentioned - and I'm not at all sure QA has checked - but the ethereal casting time was bugged. It was intended to be three seconds, but wasn't getting called correctly, and Leurocian fixed that.

E. Jeremy Dalberg
UO Community Coordinator
EA Mythic
www.uo.com

elffyb · 7th March 2008, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ally

It was intended to be three seconds, but wasn't getting called correctly, and Leurocian fixed that.

Anyone have information on when that fix goes into production on all shards?

**DiP** · 7th March 2008, 09:17 AM

Wait.... there's something wrong with dismount?

Merion · 7th March 2008, 10:20 AM

Nope, nothing wrong with dismount IMO

**DiP** · 7th March 2008, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merion

Nope, nothing wrong with dismount IMO

Thanks, I thought I was going crazy for a minute.

*mumbles* problem with dismount... *laughs*

**Maddux** · 7th March 2008, 11:13 AM

a 5 second delay is alot a time for someone with a case of chicken.

**DiP** · 7th March 2008, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddux

a 5 second delay is alot a time for someone with a case of chicken.

Thanks, now I have to explain to Tom why there is coffee all over the keyboard.

**Maddux** · 7th March 2008, 11:18 AM

Just tell him the new girl was hot, and got dismounted.

**Maddux** · 7th March 2008, 11:27 AM

When mounted, the mount should receive a portion of the damage the rider receives. Once the mount receives its max amount of damage allowed the rider becomes dismounted. As time goes by, the mount regens its hps back based off the rider stats. I would make it a longer cool down. This would encourage more melee, instead of ride by attacks.

**DiP** · 7th March 2008, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddux

Just tell him the new girl was hot, and got dismounted.

And why didn't you tell me the new girl was hot?!?! You're holding out on me!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maddux

When mounted, the mount should receive a portion of the damage the rider receives. Once the mount receives its max amount of damage allowed the rider becomes dismounted. As time goes by, the mount regens its hps back based off the rider stats. I would make it a longer cool down. This would encourage more melee, instead of ride by attacks.

Good idea, or they could change the way attacking while mounted works by decreasing hit chance/increasing casting times if you are mounted.

5th March 2008, 02:20 PM	#1
Ally The Couch Hottie Join Date: Aug 2004 Shard: Lake Austin, Atlantic Posts: 4,493 Gold: 13,671 My Mood: Thanks: 49 Thanked 20 Times in 17 Posts	Time to fix Dismount Posted on Stratics U.Hall Death Adder's comment: Pet balls were never really a legitimate defense anyway, IMO, but now that they're nerfed they are completely unsuitable as a response to Dismounting. Therefore, the "Dismount isn't unbalanced because you can counter it with petballs" argument is no longer just weak but completely untenable. So, let's fix Dismount properly. The problem, as I see it, is the permanence of its effects. Sure, in theory there's only a 6 second remount delay. In practice it lasts forever because 1) if you're on an ethereal, the (ridiculous) 5-sec casting time makes it's impossible to remount one in combat, or 2) if you're on a live mount, it gets killed before the remount delay expires. My solution? Make the effect temporary, instead of permanent. Change the effect of Dismounting such that it only slows the target down to walking speed for a set duration (in addition to the extra damage Dismount causes). Once the timer wears off, the target is back to full speed. This would make Dismount a strong tactic that must be aggressively and strategically applied, instead of the current over-powered nonsense that results in auto-kills by anyone smart enough to remember their name. As a second possible solution, we might consider reducing the casting time for ethereals to something reasonable, like between 1 and 2 seconds. ------------------------------ Oh, hey, I don't think Leurocian mentioned - and I'm not at all sure QA has checked - but the ethereal casting time was bugged. It was intended to be three seconds, but wasn't getting called correctly, and Leurocian fixed that. E. Jeremy Dalberg UO Community Coordinator EA Mythic www.uo.com

7th March 2008, 09:17 AM	#3
DiP Ronin UOForums Bouncer Join Date: Jan 2006 Shard: Black Water Raiders, Azeroth Posts: 9,221 Gold: 21,224 My Mood: Thanks: 158 Thanked 113 Times in 92 Posts	Re: Time to fix Dismount Wait.... there's something wrong with dismount? Thanks again Maddux! Adri: women don't discuss men while in the bathroom, we sacrifice small animals and smoke tampons rolls eyes

7th March 2008, 10:20 AM	#4
Merion Join Date: Jun 2007 Shard: Drachenfels Posts: 421 Gold: 594,049 My Mood: Thanks: 36 Thanked 21 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Time to fix Dismount Nope, nothing wrong with dismount IMO

7th March 2008, 11:13 AM	#6
Maddux I've got Skinnies with RPGS! Twelve 'o'clock! Join Date: Jan 2006 Shard: Pacific Posts: 6,586 Gold: 23,101 Thanks: 22 Thanked 61 Times in 48 Posts	Re: Time to fix Dismount a 5 second delay is alot a time for someone with a case of chicken.

7th March 2008, 11:18 AM	#8
Maddux I've got Skinnies with RPGS! Twelve 'o'clock! Join Date: Jan 2006 Shard: Pacific Posts: 6,586 Gold: 23,101 Thanks: 22 Thanked 61 Times in 48 Posts	Re: Time to fix Dismount Just tell him the new girl was hot, and got dismounted.

7th March 2008, 11:27 AM	#9
Maddux I've got Skinnies with RPGS! Twelve 'o'clock! Join Date: Jan 2006 Shard: Pacific Posts: 6,586 Gold: 23,101 Thanks: 22 Thanked 61 Times in 48 Posts	Re: Time to fix Dismount When mounted, the mount should receive a portion of the damage the rider receives. Once the mount receives its max amount of damage allowed the rider becomes dismounted. As time goes by, the mount regens its hps back based off the rider stats. I would make it a longer cool down. This would encourage more melee, instead of ride by attacks.

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