Posted at UO Stratics:

Player: Yeah, its a pity that some folks sit around trying to police the bod collectors cause they think they are 'scripting' when in actuallity most of the scritpers have gotten out of bods long ago and now focus on Lumberjacking/Mining/Gems.

If you want to find the scripters, go to the mountains in Fel and look around.

Sorry to hear about your banning. Just another way in which EA continues to keep the crafters down.

Even if you were running a script to pick up your bods - so what? You can only get one per 6 hrs so its not like you have some sort of unfair advantage and are doing this all day long.

EA should really sit their GM staff down and give them a stern talking to on what people do that is illegal gameplay and what others do for griefing. I think the person who paged on your bod runners should get the banning.

And no I don't run scripts to collect my bods and in fact, I am replacing my bod runners with other characters as I rarely collect bods anymore.

The rewards are junk except for high end runics and runics are currently broken (have been for 3 years) and lose properties (see the other thread where I reported this for the 56th time and provided proof).

I think this banning is just another way for EA to say 'We would like all PLAYING characters to log off from UO - we only wish for UO to be a game for the unattended macroers and unattended miners'. It sure seems like that is their current goal.

Wilki: Wow, lots of assumptions in your post.

I can tell you exactly what the policy is on these matters. A GM observes someone doing something suspicious. They attempt to get their attention. If the player doesn't respond and continues to perform actions, they're taken to jail. The GM tries again to communicate with the player. If the player still doesn't respond, then they're kicked and their account is actioned.

That's it.

If someone is simply standing around doing nothing, then the worst that will happen is your character will be kicked from the game.

Player: Even if you were running a script to pick up your bods - so what?

Wilki: No, it's not "so what?" It's not allowed, and I hope my next sentence is taken very seriously: if players continue scripting, they will lose their accounts.

You say we don't care about this activity? Oh, trust me, we do.

The sad part is these scripts just give a notification that the GM is talking to them they come say "hey my favorite color is purple" then continue with their 3rd party programs.
It's not as simple as seeing if someone is attended anymore.

There are things going on in game that is so blatently obvious that a script is being used it's not even funny.
GMs need to be trained to spot such things, and regardless of whether or not the person steps in and says "hey Im here my favorite color is yellow" bans them on the spot for using a 3rd party program. If they are scripting anything, they are doing so by using a 3rd party app and should be banned. You can't script things using UOA. You can't do many of the things you see these scripters doing.
It's not fair to the rest of the playerbase that they continue to be allowed to do so.
People are blatently posting, even on Stratics, that they use scripting programs. As if it were simply accepted that "everyone does it".
There needs to be a warning. We will start banning people Monday.... then let Monday come... and let the GM's find these people guilty as charged.
The players aren't stupid. If I call and say someone is using a 3rd party app to mine/jack a GM should come and look.

I agree with Flutter. If you can even get a GM to show up, they don't do enough to stop the scriptor from continuing on his merry way gathering resources. EA claims they can detect illegal 3rd party programs, but I don't think that's entirely true or we wouldn't see so many blatant scriptors every single day mining the exact same spots and recalling away as soon as another player shows up on the screen. Like Flutter said, these scripts can't be run using UOAssist and the players aren't stupid. We're getting sick of seeing the same chars abusing the system day after day after day with no action taken by the GMs to put a stop to them. How about the GMs have an actual conversation with the scriptor instead of just looking for a response? Ask them a few random questions and see what happens. I bet you'd be able to catch more people that way than simply waiting for them to say "Hi, how's it going?"

"and I hope my next sentence is taken very seriously: if players continue scripting, they will lose their accounts."

Sounds to me like there are some serious plans ahead to deal with this major problem ... TY Wilkie!

Go Wilki !

Rock On!!!!

I'm all for it.

As soon as we stop seeing people UMing mining and LJ and a various number of other things I will be convinced they are doing something.
But I do hope that they get ALL the accounts, not just the dummy ones. I would hate to see it that all that happens is the scripters loose their 45 day trial accounts and their 1 main account has 2 million ingots and 500,000 of each wood on it, along with 250 Million gold.

I hate to say it, but I think OSI needs to look at those people with 50+ million gold. Not saying they are all scripters because they can make that buying and selling, but they should monitor any activities between that account and any "dummy" accounts. See if they are just dropping all the ore in that persons house.

Basically just watch them for a day or two. Would kinda be neat I think if they had a scripter task force. 1-2 people whos sole job is to locate and ban exploiters and all their accounts. And leave the GMs to fixing in game problems along with harrassment stuff I guess.

It seems like they have been promising to crack down on the scripters and griefers forever now. Hopefully this is more than just another idle promise that will get fufilled sometime when they get around to it.

Problem is....scripters may "lose" accounts, but there's nothing stopping them from opening NEW ones.

I don't think enough is done to remove scripters from the game, imo.

Yes, I do think they need to find a way to link accounts to people. Not just a Credit Card or email.