Nystul-cats started a meaty discussion when he asked


Was there ever any word on this?

I'm getting tired of archers being able to hit me first just to leave me end up flagged to them just so they can run in thier house, or evade counts etc. Especially when there are multiple stealth archers doing it.


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Ciscokid was the first to reply

I hate this bug with a passion. I removed all Reflect Physical armor from my mage suit just for this reason.


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and Leurocian responded to say

This bug is most likely in our dev database. If it isn't I'll make sure it gets in there, and hopefully we can roll out a fix for this. I'm making a post on this so I don't forget. No promises on when a fix will occur, but yes, this is an annoying bug.

Thanks for your post.

Patrick "Leurocian" Malott
Lead Designer, Ultima Online
EA Mythic

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Lug asked for another flagging bug to be fixed also

Please look into the pet flagging bug also.

Pets guarding a player will attack anything that attacks the pet owner, as they should, however this causes the pet owner to be flagged as an agressor when they shouldn't be flagged at all.


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Fayled Dhreams suggested

Well .. since Leurocian DID actually post a note here ...

Be a good time to list/describe ALL the flagging issues ...

instead of piecemeal one by one ...

each Piece ... of the

Flagging SYStem ...

just a thought ... any where would do ... here, there, new thread



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In responze to Lug,Wenchkin had this to say.

Sounds like how I'd expect it to work TBH. If my pets chow down on someone's backside, they're my pets so I'd expect to take some responsibility for it.

Just don't set pets to guard you in PvP situations. It's an annoying command at the best of times

Wenchy

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That prompted this from Lug

So you think it's ok if I see you with a "Guarded" tag over your head that its 100% ok for me to take advantage of this and attack you. Knowing darn well doing this will prevent you from being able to recall, use a moongate, enter a house, or call the guards?

Even though you didn't attack anyone, you feel it's ok for you to be flagged an aggressor even though you're really the victim here - the one Being attacked?

Even though the entire idea behind the aggressor flag was to stop PK's from attacking and then fleeing in combat... That this code now works against blues that haven't attacked anything and can't flee for safety?

You feel its the blues fault for saying "all guard me"?

I think it's save to say I totally disagree with your point of view and I'm pretty sure this is not working as it supposed to be working.

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