Player: Look to see more DAoC (Lore) enter into UO way before Ultima (Lore) does.

Cathat: No Way - They're two very seperate universes with way different Lore and what not.

There's been quite a few threads already about the team's Designers who are determined to pull in more old school UO lore. I wouldn't be suprised to see a thick stack of ideas on Draconi's desk if i went over there and use a pencil to peer under his old pizza boxes or whatever. There's a lot of good storyline stuff from the old UO and the only bit of it we can't use is Lord British himself.

CatHat

"There's a lot of good storyline stuff from the old UO and the only bit of it we can't use is Lord British himself."

Aye, there are a lot of UO storylines that deserve to be continued and can be done so without Lord British ...

*looks forward to the advancement of UO Lore ...

Personally I'd love to see Exodus at work again. Never did quite figure out where the UO storyline ended up putting Exodus, it's like he/it was involved with the whole Ilshenar/Blackthorn matter and then just went poof without really getting much anything done. Or did I miss something?

Blackrock is another thing I miss from Ultima. It just HAS to be introduced in some scenario.

Blackrock is evil. The last time anything involving blackrock happened in UO, GameStop filed a lawsuit against EA and we lost Seers shortly after the court made EA pay $10k to a museum.....
.....and 7 years later, people are still trying to figure that one out. I also still refuse to shop at GameStop.

I imagine Exodus is still "out there", somewhere. His lair still stands, as do the serpent pillars. His mother still threatens us from time to time. *shrugs*

That actually makes me very sad. Yes we still have Minax, we still have Shamino and Dupre. But the head of the body...cannot be mentioned in the game anymore.

More RL legal matters have plagued UO's ongoing storyline in-game than any other game I can think of. First it was GameStop's beef with the name "Zog", now it's how much original Ultima can actually be used, in Ultima.

Yeah, Exodus is definitely "out there" somewhere... the nature of the thing lends itself nicely to any plot writers since it's nor machine nor demon yet both and can time travel and exist in sort of any plane imaginable etc etc... the ambiguity of it all is what makes Exodus nice n' creepy and formidable in my mind. The less we understand, the more we fear.

Minax is cool too of course, she's just been laying low too for a good long while now. Any charismatic nemesis would be nice to have again.

... can't use LB 'himself' ... doesn't necessarily mean they can't use the 'figure head' in storylines but perhaps I'm reading that wrong.

Not sure why the Da Vinci Code came to mind for me as a potential scenerio when I first read it ...

Whatever happened with EA/OSI/UO and any others in the past is ... welp .. in the past and they moved on (i hope). Bringing ULTIMA back into UO might ignite roleplaying which seems to be a forgotten art in UO. Roleplaying could provide opportunities for us to help expand the UO Lore in so many ways ...

*these are just my personal thoughts on it

Need more gargoyles. I liked the false profit story line.

To agree with thee and to think gargoyles are far more worthy than fruity elves

Yeah - the Gargoyles did play a really good part in the old UO storyline. They're creatures with a lot of 'character' to them and a lot of storyline (not to mention artistic) possibilities. A personal fave of mine.

Since the new team's been sucessfully hunting down more Dev's who are OLD School UO Players - I can only hope that in future work they resurrect a little more of the old favorite classic plot lines and creatures that helped put UO on the map in the first place.

CatHat