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How bout looking at doom arty drops now?????
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Comment The events have been great, actual rewards for fighting doom-like bosses, so how about looking at doom gauntlet arty drops and bumping them up a bit? Doom stays pretty empty now, it could use some rejuvenation, and bumping the arty drop rate would do just that. I think it would also help reduce the duping issue if the arties dropped somewhat more often than they do currently. And, yes, I have gotten an artifact from gauntlet, but I have also spent several hundred hours in there, for that amount of time spent, 1 arty seems pretty slow drop rate to me. If not bumping the drop rate, go to ToT style where you are guaranteed an arty after a bit. As it is now, it is HIGHLY likely you could run the gauntlet constantly and never get an arty. ######################### I'm still a big fan of adapting the ToT distribution system (the more you kill the better chance of getting an artifact) to both Doom and the Paragons. Maybe even expand it out to champ spawns as well so that those who actually WORK the spawn get rewards not just those who ghost cam in time to raid the final boss. ######################### Really have to agree with this. After spending my months unemployed dedicated to hunting for artifacts in doom... and getting nothing... I realized that the system needed tweaking. I eventually got one, but for the redundancy of the gauntlet, with no reward for months of play, it became frustrating and boring rather quickly. I dont think they should drop as fast as the ToT, but they shouldnt drop as slow as they do now. Maybe a nice happy medium between the two. Have Fun!!! ######################### Ya a bump would be nice, Ive pulled 8 out of Doom myself, but dont even know how long I spent there. Would be nice if maybe they did not "up it" but gave you a token or something so you could choose which arty you wanted. Kind of like how you can pick the TOT major you want. That would be great! ######################### Aye, an increase or a very very slow ToT type of system would be good. On another note, last week we went with about 19 people, 15 were doing damage. We did the DF's, the rooms, the DF's one more time before we left. 3 Arties were collected, and OMG, one person got two! He is a bush archer, he used 1250 arrows in the time we were there. We go a few times a month with a big group, and I think our success rate is about 40% someone gets an Artie. Last week was an abberation for sure. ######################### Hope the Devs have some free time to look into this.. ######################### Leurocian Ultima Online Designer Funny you should say that....While I don't have a lot of time, I have been working on such a system. No promises if and when it will be implemented, however.
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Re: How bout looking at doom arty drops now?????
NOOOOOOOOooooooooOOOOOoooOOOOooooOoOoooO.
Thank you.
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Re: How bout looking at doom arty drops now?????
Under the proposed system, ppl will farm Doom at an alarming rate driving the price of Doom Arties down at the same time. Somethings are meant to be very hard to get and should stay that way.
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Re: How bout looking at doom arty drops now?????
But is it too hard? I farmed the Gauntlet for a long, long time, and never saw a single artifact. Sometimes I brought my paladin, and sometimes I brought my lucked-out tamer, but I never saw a single artifact, which is frustrating, to say the least, while some people walked out with multiple artifacts.
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Re: How bout looking at doom arty drops now?????
If you dont see results fast enough, doesn't necessarily make it too hard. In the real world, not everyone wins the lottery, and it should be the same in UO.
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Re: How bout looking at doom arty drops now?????
Exactly, I'm in the same boat as you Deraj, probably spent 100 hours in there, with nothing but an empty bank box to show afterwards.
Then you get people like Maddux who strole in for 30 minutes and walk out with two. Then go to the fan dancer dojo, kill an oni, and get a 3rd. But in all honesty, if one popped up in my pack JUST BECAUSE it is supposed to due to time spent and amount of things I killed would take away the feeling that I earned it, kinda like the guy that goes to work, but doesn't work and still gets paid, as opposed to the guy that has to work just to make a living.
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Re: How bout looking at doom arty drops now?????
And how many people win the lottery twice? Try to bear in mind that I went at this for months. Of course, I don't do it anymore; lost interest. I agree that it should be hard though, but not unfair, which I feel it can be at times.
The most important thing, however, is that Doom shouldn't be some sort of "artifact harvesting factory" like it has came to be. It should be an adventure, a challenge, and not primarily about the artifacts. If everything in this game revolved around collecting items, then we might as well just call the game World of UltimaCraft.
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Re: How bout looking at doom arty drops now?????
By making Doom award artifacts more often, you will turn Doom into an artifact farming spawn. Doom is more about a group of individuals working together to take down a very over powered monster. Its the King of all monsters. Doom is place where you can go, to get away from all the charity cases plagueing the banks of trammel. It takes work to get inside, and work to stay alive.
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Re: How bout looking at doom arty drops now?????
Very true, and I agree completely. Reminds me of when AoS first came around, and the battles that took place with the Dark Father before everyone started luring it to the moongate. Now that was fun.
If you want Doom Artifacts to be hard to get though, then I think it's fair to say you would agree with the idea that people shouldn't be walking out with two or more artifacts in a period of a week.
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Re: How bout looking at doom arty drops now?????
Its going to happen where someone gets more than one artifact in a short amount of time. I am against any type of counter that has to be reset before you can get your next artifact. My luck would be that it would get stuck.
I wouldn't mind seeing an alternate list for items to select from at Doom. You gather enough "points or time" in Doom and you get to select from a list of items. Very much like Museum or Library rewards.
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Re: How bout looking at doom arty drops now?????
Maddux has the right idea about a points or time system so it would be like museum of vesper items. Also, how about a timer then that is linked to an account or player that will not let a person get another artie in XXX amount of time (depending on artie received) so people do not just live there all day farming arties. This will make people use another character or account or leave doom so another person would have a chance at an artie or maybe they will actually stay there to help someone out.
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Re: How bout looking at doom arty drops now?????
I don't like timers, on anything. I don't like accumulating points just to get an arty. Is it nice to have, sure, if you just want to sit in doom forever and every 20th dark father, poof, which one did I get this time. Bleh, sounds too boring.
I'd much rather just have a chance, I don't care how small, I don't care if I never get one, it's just a different feeling when you get something your not supposed to due to game mechanics. IF they do something with the drops, I like Maddux's idea of a different list of arties you get to choose from, not the originals.
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