envinytar was very upset as this post explains


I got an email this morning from ea saying that my account has been flagged for using a bugged quiver. I just got the quiver from an account that I bought and had no idea that it was bugged. Only after reading do I even understand what this means (some how the bug makes the quiver hold more arrows than it should). Anyway, the quiver in question was holding less than the 500 max so I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. How am I supposed to know that the dang thing is bugged? I contacted EA support and was basically told "too bad." WTF?


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Quite a heated debate broke out,which I will leave you to read yourselves,and merely move straight to Jeremys response.



envinyatar, you're not expected to know. But the GMs told you, and made a note that they'd told you, so.. now you know, and we know you know. That's all that's going on here.


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but it didnt quite end there as you will see.

Theo_GL

Why doesn't EA just make all the quivers 0/400?

Its not that unbalancing and is more of convenience issue.

To get your account banned/marked for something so stupid when duping, hacking, scripting is so rampant is both funny and sad.

I can sit in Heartwood and script Heartwood runics for days on end and nothing happens yet with a quiver modified for 400 stones - its an account mark.

Its like letting the murders go free while you chase jaywalkers. Nice work EA/GM's. I guess go after the easy to catch and ignore the organized crime.

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Theo, you missed my point - it's not a "black mark" or anything, it's just a note that you've been informed of this particular issue, so if we find you selling half a dozen of them next week, you can't tell us "Oh, but I didn't know!"



Jeremy_EAMythic
UO Community Coordinator

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Theo

With all due respect Jeremy - you missed my point. Simply fix the issue by making them all hold 400 stones and lets move on with more important things.

It either makes someone go back more often to get arrows or you carry another quiver of infinity in your pack. Still blessed, no more insurance $$ and more arrows. Why not just make all quivers work up to 400 stones? No one carries 400 stones of arrows anyway or you wouldn't be able to loot monsters or carry bandies.

I really don't think person A with 400 stone quiver vs person B with 50 stone quiver is really much of an advantage. So Person B has another quiver in his pack than person A. Big deal.

Lets fix the code and get on to more important things. The fact that we have 40 replies and 2 posts by you to a non-issue is troubling. There are more things that should take your time then weight on quivers.

Thats my point.

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I was wondering when some one would make this point from packrat

Now im confused. A guy is wearing a quiver he has no clue is bugged. So we are going to flag him incase he sells a dozen of them next week? huh...
So that means anyone wearing a quiver is going to get a flag in case it gets bugged on its own and we might sale a dozen next week?
Come on Dev's. We are telling you that there is a problem with the quivers over loading on their own. Just fix the bug that is causing this and we wont have to flag anyone... I wish you guys would react this quick when we report on scripters and gold farmers.

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while Flutter put Jeremy's explanation in more detail.

Ok. You didn't get into trouble or anything.
Everything is fine.
When they say your account was "flagged" that is just their way of letting you know that they have informed you about the item (in this case your quiver) and that you have an opportunity to get it fixed BEFORE you get into trouble.
It's no big deal.
By "how was I supposed to know" well... they just TOLD you. That's how you know.
Now if you continued to use a bugged quiver and they checked and saw the "flag" that said you'd already been TOLD about it, THEN you would be in trouble.
Understand?
Don't sweat it. There's no mark on your account or anything. Just make sure the quivers you use are legit and if there's a question page a GM with "I received an email asking me to page to check and make sure my quiver is legal" The GM SHOULD then let you know if you're good to go.
Again no big deal. Biggest problem is having to sit and wait for the GM to show up. lol
Hope this helps you out.

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Ok, but when I checked the quiver before I paged to have it fixed, there wasn't anything wrong with the quiver. When I paged to talk to a GM about it, I was informed that they can't talk to me in-game. I've since attempted to get a response from EA support online to no avail. I'll page again tonight, but like I said, the quiver did not appear to be bugged (it looked like the other quiver of infinity that own).






Quiver wasn't bugged, it was a regular quiver dyed with tokuno pigment (unless the bugged quivers look like every other quiver, which then the question would be how can i tell for the future?). When I paged, I got a canned response that is of no help, the GM couldn't talk to me in-game. Great, I don't have a mark against my account, but how can I find out what happened in the first place if the quiver was never bugged?

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Well, that's actually a different issue than the OP's original question

envinyatar, now I'm kinda confused - feel free to email me with your account name and I'll try to figure out what happened. jdalberg AT ea DOT com


Jeremy_EAMythic
UO Community Coordinator


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Conor_Graham made sense when he said.

The quiver was probably fixed by the same GM that sent you the email. They don't make a habit of noting an exploit and sending an email without fixing the issue. By the time you got to the point of looking at it, and even prior to you creating this thread, that quiver had already been fixed by the GM to be a "proper" quiver.

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Connor, I have the same suspicion, which is why I'm checking on our side.

Jeremy_EAMythic
UO Community Coordinator

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