Both UO and WoW are great games, because of the players who play them and make their respective communities what they are.

Nicely said Maddux

Yes, that 's exactly it. I need to... spam, a lot. More work? Did you not read my positively brilliant idea? I just proposed a simple enhancement that would preserve the awesomeness of the current chat system but help in solving the one problem that modal chat is supposed to fix.

I play World of Warcraft, which means I deal with modal chat plenty, and furthermore, I have very much gotten used to using it. It simply does not belong in Ultima.

Because "UI Standardization" is an excuse to copy the UI of WoW/other games. Seriously. Instead of designing a unique system tailored to the gameplay of UO, they adopt the UI that's tailored to other games and their respective designs. What does that tell you about the future of UO's design?

No, really, listen carefully. Is the UI the gameplay? Of course not, but it defines how you play the game. You think I'm coming here ranting about every little aspect of the new UI because I'm a stingy 2D zealot? Look at the bigger picture. Look at what direction Mondain's Legacy sent UO, and now they're introducing this WoWish-looking UI.

Is UO going to suffer? Hell if I know. All I know is that it's not going to be the same game. I might as well have brought a brand new game, because that's what KR is. A brand new game.

Actually, I'll stick with 2D, thanks.

There are, in my mind, two aspects that compose an MMORPG: the design, and the community. Yeah, sure, the community is important, etc etc, and so forth, but the design is what I'm talking about.

Not sure if I'd play WoW for the community, though.

Then you would only be disppointed.

Deraj I have to ask, do you even enjoy playing UO at all? I dont think I've ever heard you say 1 positive thing about this game, yet you continue to post about UO. Now granted, feel free to post your thoughts. I am not here to say "dont say this or that" about UO. I was just wondering if you even enjoyed playing the game at all anymore, or do you play at all?

Too bad WoW and the other MMO's on the market don't offer any real RP possibilities without imagining almost everything. As a "whack a monster, hang out with friends and collect a ton of kewl lewt" game UO doesn't stand up against the newer games.

But roleplaying is what for makes UO the only viable choice. Simple.

WoW like UO has some of the finest role players I have seen. In fact many migrated from UO, and a few still play both.

lol, ive looked for a long time and unless its a "role play by our rules" guild I have yet to meet many. Thats why I gave up and went to a pvp server. UO is greater with role play then WoW is, theres just not enough people to do it

I cant speak for other servers, but I will say I have found a mature rp group, but the only draw back is that they are on the Horde Side. I was busy raiding one of their events, and their commitment to defend their homes, garnered much respect from me. I popped on the horde side and send them a whisper, that I was impressed and that they have earned respect from me.

Another recent serverwide rp event was Battle for Thandul Span An excelent rp event put together by the community.

It's not the lack of roleplayers, it's the lack of tools to do it. As I said, you'll have to imagine practically everything, since you cannot even drop things on the ground, much less have something like custom housing. Sure the emotes are nice, but that's about it. Guild warring? Forget it.