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Old 19th December 2005, 05:22 PM   #1
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Does food help you in game?

Player: I remember back in the day, if you were full you had a better chance of hitting, casting, etc. Is that still around at all?
Wilki: It certainly doesn't now, and as far as I know, it never has. It also doesn't change the RNG at all. Neither does dying.

After I looked at the code, and thought back to how I committed suicide everytime my pack was full while working tinkering, and all the time I spent recalling around and running back and forth across the server lines in Buc's Den... let's just say you don't need to do any of those things.
Player: It's also been said that it's coincidence that after you eat, the bad streak you were on goes away.
Wilki: Could that perhaps be explained this way.

Sir Joe is furiously crafting candlebras looking for a gain. He crafts 300 of them, and nothing. "Well, darnit, that Wilki guy said it doesn't matter, but I'm going to try eating just in case!"

*munch* *munch*

55 candlebras later... 0.1 gain!

Now, Sir Joe thinks Wilki is full of it, and that hunger does indeed make a difference.

But whoaaah there pilgrim. Could it be that Sir Joe was having a particularly bad run of luck that was due to end soon, butinstead of his eating causing the gain, rather it was the run of bad luck that caused him to eat? In other words, people don't start trying these odd behaviors until they've ran into a long run of no gains, so though they would have gained anyhow, the perception is that eating actually does cause gains to occur?

That's my theory. :-)

Wilki: I didn't say it was coincidence, rather it is factor of probability and perception.

If you're getting gains at a rate that you expect, you're not likely to be thinking about eating, changing subservers, dying, etc. It's only after you've ran into a longer than normal streak of bad luck that you start thinking that something is wrong, and you begin to try various things to increase your chance to gain.

But if you have a set probability that something will occur with each use (say, 1 in 1000 that you'll gain when you make a chair), if you've already gone far enough past your average length of time between gains so that you start to think that something is wrong, you're "due" to see a gain. That doesn't mean that each time you craft for that 1 in a 1000 gain you have an ever greater chance of getting it for each individual crafting attempt, as each one is always 1 in 1000. Collectively, however, the chance that you'll get that 1 in 1000 result increases as you accumulate more crafting attempts.

So, in a nutshell, people don't tend to think about this sort of thing unless they're having a particularly bad run of luck, and by that time, they're "due" for a gain.

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Old 19th December 2005, 06:36 PM   #2
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Re: Does food help you in game?

Whatever you say.... My own opinion of it is, if it doesn't affect you one way or the other, how about we be allowed to eat, just for the heck of it.????:cheesy:

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Old 19th December 2005, 07:13 PM   #3
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Re: Does food help you in game?

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Wilki:That doesn't mean that each time you craft for that 1 in a 1000 gain you have an ever greater chance of getting it for each individual crafting attempt, as each one is always 1 in 1000. Collectively, however, the chance that you'll get that 1 in 1000 result increases as you accumulate more crafting attempts.
Ive alwayshad a problem with that...probability should increase with attempts. To take the 1 in 1000 from the example, after youve made 500 chairs, you should have at least a 1 in 500 chance to gain...

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Old 20th December 2005, 04:13 AM   #4
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Re: Does food help you in game?

lol i foujnd eating alwyas helps my mages cast better dunno about the gaining though.. i generally try and keep my girls stocked up on food though just becauce it 'could' be useful

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Old 20th December 2005, 08:18 AM   #5
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Re: Does food help you in game?

I find it too with my mage...but of course it's probably in my head.
But i'm the same way...I carry a little stack of fishsteaks on my mage at all times.

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Old 20th December 2005, 02:45 PM   #6
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Re: Does food help you in game?

I am originally from Missouri... Show Me State.... makes us hard to convince of amorphous things like that eating food might help you to be more productive. It may be all in my head, but no one has managed to make me question my own experience with eating helping to break a dry streak or have less failures... Don't anyone bother me with 'so called' facts... In my little world it works, and by depriving me of the ability to eat at will, my productivity is definitly down!!!! *Snowy's a little weird sometimes.. don't mind her. She wanders off and I have to go get her and bring her home...*

I don't doubt the word of those who wrote the code, who read it or who tested.. The statement that it doesn't affect gameplay is just wrong. It affects my gameplay and anyone else's who enjoys having a banquet for friends or even just the illusion of going through normal actions. Whether it will bump us into better performance or assist us in any way does not cancel out the personal desire to use it. Heck, maybe it's just a 'last ditch effort' when we are frustrated at not making an expected gain.. maybe it is all mental.. but it is definitely an important part of game play for a good portion of the population.

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