Ok so just got back to uo and decided to play a necro/mage, and decided on this build...

Mage
fence
eval
resist spells
SS
Nec
some med if possible

What should i be getting these skills to and what stat setup should i use with a +25 stat scroll. Thanks!

Higher med and less MR since the latest patch. Anything over 10MR with 40LMC and 100ish Med is overkill.

120 Mage/Eval/Resist/SS
115Med
105 Necro

Can dump the last 20 + any other acc. skill points into something like SW (attunement is worth it alone!).

Higher the resist the better... but I play with 115 resist and it's fine unless I'm mage dueling.

Pointless having a weapon skill w/o tactics anymore. Better off using Staff or Swords of Prosp for weaponskill related DCI. Or adjust those stats to fit in Wrestling and use the scrappers or clanin's to help offset an uber suit.

Stats are high health and mana with just enough stam to not get stam blocked by any hit or pain spike.

That temp depends alot on suit. You can use items to help dump points into other skills if need be... like the SS totem that gives +15 skills (but lose LMC w/o totem of void)...using a scrappers gives you the ability to bump up mage related skills as well as using jewelry with lower fc/fcr and more stats/skills. Skip the orni and use leet bracelet and ring combo to squeeze in more skills and stats.

Boy I ramble alot...

Tactics is needed for weapon specials. Instead of fencing you can go wrestling and still have specials (harder to get off now that a spell un-ques the special).

100 med is very nice and almost needed now. I also run 50 chiv so that I can devine fury and if Karma permits, cure/remove curse.

chiv won't work well for this temp because a) it's nerfed with over70 magery and b) unless you plan on regaining your karma every hour... you cant remove curse. heal and cure are covered with both mage and necro as well as mortal.

I highly recommend wrestle because w/o tactics... you won't find a weapon that compares to a good spellbook or scrappers. Unless of course you go mage weap... but that's a whole nother story (and suit!)

Divine fury is worth the 50ish points you put into chiv Ever have a couple necros pain spike spam you in a field fight? Either that or 5ish stam regen.

There is also nothing wrong with gaining karma. If you are at a spawn your karma will sky rocket...where most pvp counts

He is going to have necro. He will lose karma alot faster than he builds it up.

Divine fury is nice, I agree, but I'd rather set a macro to disarm and chug for those rare occassions rather than dump the skill into it on a tight template like this. Now if you didn't want magery it's well worth going 4/6 chiv with necro.

Dont argue I have had necros that at all times are lords or glory lords not too hard and if you do that ever night dont matter at all with karma and such

no way. I have a necro chiv dexxer just for the purpose of healing (which is still better and faster than a mini heal w/o karma.. but worthless w/o 4/6 ie w/ mage).

Me, and every other necro chiv pvper in my guild, would need to park at evil mages throughout the day to gain any kind of karma. After one spawn or an hour at the gate... karma would be back down again.

Unless you are using your weapon skill and magery for the spawn, you're gonna lose karma alot faster than you gain it from rats. Rikky is probably better for the karma however you are going to lose TONS of karma to 1st and 2nd level if you use necro for the spawn (its stupid not to with the power of wither vs. spawn).

It is an uphill battle and there are about a handful of PKs on my shard that are willing to monitor their karma for the sake of remove curse.

IMO it's not worth the trade off wtih mage. If you are a good mage you dont' need chiv to heal. Mage heals are all you need and SS is that added bonus for mortalers. Why waste the skill points that you absolutely need on this template... as well as making magery worthless to have. Another thing to keep in mind is that the amount you heal is based off your magery. At 70 Magery (or is it 69.9?) you are going to have serious trouble explo and FSing people. In pvp a fizzle from anything other than a disrupt is a bad thing. You're going to heal crap amounts of damage. You can't rez unless your suit incorporates a magery bonus or you swap jewels or book.

IMO it is a toss up. If you want chiv, forget magery. If you want magery, forget chiv. The only bonus to chiv is remove curse (which you will need to monitor and improve), holy light if you're high enough, and divine fury. Remove curse with apples, divine fury with pots, screw holy light you've got fields and area spells. I find magery alot more beneifical to have on that template than chiv and no decent player should need 3 concrete methods of healing plus the ability to chug to stay alive. With mage and SS, and the bonus of pots if you choose - I'd say your defense is covered, work on your offense. I've yet to see a straight necro (no mage) that is effective against a mage template.

At this point I would have to say that this disagreement is purely opinion based. While you dont like working your karma and feel that 50-65 points in chiv is a waist for a mage/necro, I however only seem to fight necro using characters and LOVE remove curse and devine fury since I dont run any stamina regen.

necro/mage A: casts curse + strangle + corpse skin
necro/mage Phix: casts curse + strangle + corpse + remove curse
necro/mage A: starts to run and heal
necro/mage Phix: begins to pummel

I would say the 50-65 points in chiv were well worth the points.

I don't run with a fighting skill and that might be why I have the points to do this. To me chiv is much more benificial than poison or even inscribe with a mage/necro due to the ability to fight other necros (we all know necro is the most popular build).

I do understand the apples and the pots. Apples have a downtime and while down, you can and will get necroed. You can also achieve a 4/6 chiv mage necro with 69 magery I do believe.

EDIT: 5/10 necro/ss totem is nice for the 15 points, run 100 med instead of 115...that is 30 extra points. 50 chiv more if you lower your med.

Yes I thought that I said itwas my opinion. I fight alot of necros as well and strangle - albeit annoying - is something that can be healed thru and removed in other methods. If you want to play with magery tho - 69.9 is not enough and the spells you can cast are more or less for disruption purposes only. You also have NO way to rez other players. If you go full magery - then you only have 2/6 casting and if you are fighting a good necro there is no way in hell you should get a remove curse off w/ 2/6 casting fighting any kind of mage or necro.

If chiv was not nerfed for mages then I would 100% agree with you that it is a great defense to have. However, it is worthless wtih magery, and uses up points that could be used and much needed else where in this particular template. I still stand by my statement of having to pick one or the other. If you go chiv, drop magery. If you go magery, drop chiv. You don't *need* the points in chiv.