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Could anybody please help me with the coordinates on our new map? I have a treasure map at 55 11S 107 22E. I am standing right on tep at this spot and want to make a waypoint, but I can only make a waypoint where is no player dot. If I turn the player dot off I cant exactly tell where I should create the waypoint.
I know I can type in the coordinates there, but no sextant coordinates. And to know what the KR coordinates are for this place I have first to open the window at the exact spot ...

Eeeeep, can anybody please tell me how I have to do this?

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After a fair bit of running around and trying creating way points I've discovered that, while the rest of the uo world uses Brit throne room as zero point. That's all our rune books, our treasure maps, our sextants and our s.o.s. messages. Whoever calibrated for the KR map, in their infinite wisdom, has the co-ordinates 0.00 lat x 0.00 long. here:






I'm just about speechless.

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A kingdom reborn.
Time for us to move the castle then?


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way to prove the team cares.

Never mind how the whole world is calibrated, ignore the whole ethos of the damn game, never mind that it will be unusable for maps and mibs. Just print a map off and fold it in 4. The zero point will be where the folds cross.

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It should not be though so much of a problem to move it.

We all know KR will take 3-6 months before it is sort of 'finished' anyway.
And Q&A was asked to close their eyes for KR publishes anyway

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It's less of a problem to do it right in the first place!
If the person doing the calibrating didn't know where zero was, why didn't he/she ask?!!

While I don't doubt the committment of some of the team, I also get the feeling that some have the attitude 'it's only UO, anything will do'.
Our characters sprites are an 'anything will do' piece of artwork, so are most of the furnishings. I want a consistent quality of artwork overall. Not some great and some third rate! Is it really too much to ask? Some of it isn't even drawn from the same angle!

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If you want to know why they did not ask Petra,

I think I have the answer.

If you have one the the paper/cloth maps from years ago. Just look at the mainland mass.

If you just eyeball it
You will see that the point (0.00 by 0.00) that you show, is nearly the center of that map. North/South wise

if you measure from the bottom of Jheloms bottom island measure to your point and then extend that same measurement you will hit the very top of the largest land mass (Or at least close enough for a DAoC programmer)

If you want to be more precise, I have 3 paper maps from various releases, here are the maesurements:

from the map released by primagames : its about 6 inches either direction from your point

from the map released with T2A (double sided Britannia/Lost Lands) : its about 7 inches either direction from your point.

from the map released with LBR (double sided Britannia/Ilshenar) : its about 4.5 inches either direction from your point.

Just one more unique thing about UO changed without thought or reason. But do not worry its still UO, it only looks better. Right?


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Eeeep, yes, they just made the zero point in the middle of the map
Jeremy, please look, could somebody please calibrate the map correct and add a line to insert sextant coordinates, too, for our t-maps, mibs ...?

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What are you doing in Trammel? Hmmmm?



Did you catch some kind of disease when you were there?
Did it hurt?

However, personally, I think this is the funniest foulup I've seen in KR so far!

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Sent to the mapmaster, thanks!



E. Jeremy Dalberg
UO Community Coordinator
EA Mythic

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