The Vanguard Attacks! (Some Spoilers) - Page 4

Corpse · 05-05-2008, 12:43 PM

Heres some things i noticed when killing the vanguard-

When i bola'ed the vanguard controller, i saw the dread horse for a second then it poofed, so that means can only tame it after you kill the controller.

When i killed the controller, i got the shield, and the sword, but the cloak was not there, which probably means it randomly spawns in a players backpack like the cloak of corruption.

Vanguard controller teleports around alot, and gets stuck underground (serpents hold is where i saw this) if you kill him while hes underground you wont be able to reach the horse or body to loot, so best to page GM when its redlined then finish it fast.

Galen · 05-05-2008, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magister_Returns

"Magnus acervus erit"

The actual meaning of this phrase is lost without context. This is part of a proverb with religious overtones, the entirety of which is:

"Adde parum parvo, magnus acervus erit"

Literally translated: "Add a little to a little and there will be a great heap."

Often used when discussion loaves and fishes...

~M

Very odd.

I wonder if it has meaning in this context, or if they Shadowlords are just referring to a heap of our bodies, and the designers are using a religious phrase to mess with us.

It is worth noting that, in Ultima 4, the game that introduced the Virtues, there were 12 companions that could join the Avatar. (Only 7 or 8 at a time, but 12 in total COULD join you.)

One of them was named Saduj, and he would betray the party in battle.

Saduj is Judas spelled backwards, and Jesus Christ had 12 Apostles. Richard Garriott's intention in Ultima 4 was clearly incorporate religious, specifically Christian, imagery to drive home the fact that the Avatar was a kind of Christ figure for the Ultima universe.

Is Draconi also following this technique? Or is he maybe just messing with us?

Time will tell.

-Galen's player

Magister_Returns · 05-05-2008, 02:01 PM

It may just be that their Latin isn't particularly good, or they just googled one of the many Latin phrases sites out on the net. Every one of the phrases they used can be found with a minimum of effort on one of those Latin phrase sites.

Occam's Razor.

~M

Magister_Returns · 05-05-2008, 02:07 PM

Also - has anyone checked the corrupted wisps next to the Moonglow rift? Perhaps we can now interact with them in some way...?

~M

MalagAste · 05-05-2008, 02:17 PM

The Vanguard also have some interesting things to say, the sayings I've heard so far are...

Legum Servi Sumus
Beware I live...
Bellum Omnium In Omnes
Bellum letale
Libertatum Est Vendere
Bellum...
Bella Horrida
Magnus acervus erit
I am Vanguard!
Aut Viam Invenium
I hunger!
Non Est Disputandum
Beware Coward!
Run, Coward!
Dulce Bellum!
Run!

OMG I almost died laughing!!!!!!! OK now tell me Which DEV team member is it that is a HUGE fan of Sinistar!??!?!?!?

Gads! I'm still laughing!..... Go run play Sinistar for any of you that never did YEARS And YEARS ago in the arcades... or on Supernintendo when they brought that game back from the dead...... I loved that game! I used to play that game for hours in the arcade... One quarter would last me several hours.... I would finally have to be dragged out of the arcade by my sister..... with 30 lives left on my game. I can still hear the sinister laugh!!!!!!!! RUN COWARD RUN! I LIVE! I AM SINISTAR!....... *crazy meniacle laughter!* I LIVE!

Thanks DEV's for that old memory!...... *laughs*

Kiminality · 05-05-2008, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magister_Returns

"Magnus acervus erit"

The actual meaning of this phrase is lost without context. This is part of a proverb with religious overtones, the entirety of which is:

"Adde parum parvo, magnus acervus erit"

Literally translated: "Add a little to a little and there will be a great heap."

Often used when discussion loaves and fishes...

~M

When I read these things, I tend to think of the Ori, from Stargate...
They were pretty big on quoting scripture.

Anyway, if you take context from their actions; not-entirely-overwhelming numbers attacking a few cities...
I think it is some kind of self-confident rhetoric... The current invasion is not everything that they have to offer, in effect.

mrbill · 05-05-2008, 09:27 PM

I was a huge player of sinistar in the 1980s LOL

I.. HUNGER

Roar lol

MalagAste · 05-05-2008, 09:53 PM

I'm glad I'm not alone...... Man I spent HOURS playing that game... hum.... I date myself!....... ACK!

Lycanthropy · 06-05-2008, 02:25 AM

I found this website-blog, it has a few more (spoilers) images of the invasion:
¡ÚUO¡Û¥¦¥ë¥Æ¥£¥Þ¥Þ¥Ë¥¢ - livedoor Blog¡Ê¥Ö¥í¥°¡Ë

If the stats here hold, tamed Dread Horses have:

615 HP
112 STAM
122 INT
534 STR
112 DEX
122 INT

71/20/26/56/40 resists
40/0/0/20/40 damage
20-26 base on hit

No poisoning (---) and no skills above 100 when tamed. I can't translate the possible pack instinct.

Lycanthropy · 06-05-2008, 05:12 AM

On Origin, Luna has a town crier. On Chesapeake, I don't see any. Do we have to invest in one of those silly rats to know the news now? ;P NM found one at Skara Brae...hm

Sir Sweetleaf · 06-05-2008, 06:01 AM

I am on Origin and have been trying to turn in my spring cleaning tickets that I accumualted right after the published Origin with the patch, but the chest will not take them anymnore. When I try and place the ticket in the chest it just jumos back in my backpack. Anyone else having this problem? Does anyone know if these tickets are transferable between accounts and shards?

Petra Fyde · 06-05-2008, 06:17 AM

I wonder if there's a problem with the box? Maybe that's why the shards just getting the publish don't have it at all.

05-05-2008, 12:43 PM	#37 (permalink)
Corpse Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 16 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: The Vanguard Attacks! (Some Spoilers) Heres some things i noticed when killing the vanguard- When i bola'ed the vanguard controller, i saw the dread horse for a second then it poofed, so that means can only tame it after you kill the controller. When i killed the controller, i got the shield, and the sword, but the cloak was not there, which probably means it randomly spawns in a players backpack like the cloak of corruption. Vanguard controller teleports around alot, and gets stuck underground (serpents hold is where i saw this) if you kill him while hes underground you wont be able to reach the horse or body to loot, so best to page GM when its redlined then finish it fast.

05-05-2008, 02:01 PM	#39 (permalink)
Magister_Returns He's Fing Matt Damon Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 676 Thanks: 10 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: The Vanguard Attacks! (Some Spoilers) It may just be that their Latin isn't particularly good, or they just googled one of the many Latin phrases sites out on the net. Every one of the phrases they used can be found with a minimum of effort on one of those Latin phrase sites. Occam's Razor. ~M

05-05-2008, 02:07 PM	#40 (permalink)
Magister_Returns He's Fing Matt Damon Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 676 Thanks: 10 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: The Vanguard Attacks! (Some Spoilers) Also - has anyone checked the corrupted wisps next to the Moonglow rift? Perhaps we can now interact with them in some way...? ~M

05-05-2008, 02:17 PM	#41 (permalink)
MalagAste Join Date: Jul 2007 Shard: Great Lakes Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: The Vanguard Attacks! (Some Spoilers) The Vanguard also have some interesting things to say, the sayings I've heard so far are... Legum Servi Sumus Beware I live... Bellum Omnium In Omnes Bellum letale Libertatum Est Vendere Bellum... Bella Horrida Magnus acervus erit I am Vanguard! Aut Viam Invenium I hunger! Non Est Disputandum Beware Coward! Run, Coward! Dulce Bellum! Run! OMG I almost died laughing!!!!!!! OK now tell me Which DEV team member is it that is a HUGE fan of Sinistar!??!?!?!? Gads! I'm still laughing!..... Go run play Sinistar for any of you that never did YEARS And YEARS ago in the arcades... or on Supernintendo when they brought that game back from the dead...... I loved that game! I used to play that game for hours in the arcade... One quarter would last me several hours.... I would finally have to be dragged out of the arcade by my sister..... with 30 lives left on my game. I can still hear the sinister laugh!!!!!!!! RUN COWARD RUN! I LIVE! I AM SINISTAR!....... crazy meniacle laughter! I LIVE! Thanks DEV's for that old memory!...... laughs __________________ Last edited by MalagAste; 08-05-2008 at 09:29 PM.

05-05-2008, 09:27 PM	#43 (permalink)
mrbill Join Date: Apr 2008 Shard: Origin Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Vanguard Attacks! (Some Spoilers) I was a huge player of sinistar in the 1980s LOL I.. HUNGER Roar lol

05-05-2008, 09:53 PM	#44 (permalink)
MalagAste Join Date: Jul 2007 Shard: Great Lakes Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: The Vanguard Attacks! (Some Spoilers) I'm glad I'm not alone...... Man I spent HOURS playing that game... hum.... I date myself!....... ACK! __________________

06-05-2008, 02:25 AM	#45 (permalink)
Lycanthropy Join Date: Aug 2007 Shard: Chesapeake Posts: 39 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: The Vanguard Attacks! (Some Spoilers) I found this website-blog, it has a few more (spoilers) images of the invasion: ¡ÚUO¡Û¥¦¥ë¥Æ¥£¥Þ¥Þ¥Ë¥¢ - livedoor Blog¡Ê¥Ö¥í¥°¡Ë If the stats here hold, tamed Dread Horses have: 615 HP 112 STAM 122 INT 534 STR 112 DEX 122 INT 71/20/26/56/40 resists 40/0/0/20/40 damage 20-26 base on hit No poisoning (---) and no skills above 100 when tamed. I can't translate the possible pack instinct.

06-05-2008, 05:12 AM	#46 (permalink)
Lycanthropy Join Date: Aug 2007 Shard: Chesapeake Posts: 39 Thanks: 3 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: The Vanguard Attacks! (Some Spoilers) On Origin, Luna has a town crier. On Chesapeake, I don't see any. Do we have to invest in one of those silly rats to know the news now? ;P NM found one at Skara Brae...hm Last edited by Lycanthropy; 06-05-2008 at 05:15 AM.

06-05-2008, 06:01 AM	#47 (permalink)
Sir Sweetleaf Ottersrun Taphouse of Guardians Gate Join Date: Feb 2007 Shard: Chessepeake Posts: 28 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: The Vanguard Attacks! (Some Spoilers) I am on Origin and have been trying to turn in my spring cleaning tickets that I accumualted right after the published Origin with the patch, but the chest will not take them anymnore. When I try and place the ticket in the chest it just jumos back in my backpack. Anyone else having this problem? Does anyone know if these tickets are transferable between accounts and shards? __________________ Last edited by Sir Sweetleaf; 06-05-2008 at 06:02 AM.

06-05-2008, 06:17 AM	#48 (permalink)
Petra Fyde Visiting from Robin Hood Country Join Date: Jul 2005 Shard: Europa Posts: 178 Thanks: 1 Thanked 13 Times in 6 Posts	Re: The Vanguard Attacks! (Some Spoilers) I wonder if there's a problem with the box? Maybe that's why the shards just getting the publish don't have it at all. __________________

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