I am not a griefer. I do not like the griefer that arrived in twisted wield today, and i dont know the other girl so cnt comment. But today i fully supported them, and had i been able to swap to my tamer before the players being griefed buggerd off, i would have joined in the griefing.

The first case, im smacking swoop and i keep seeing this guy run around with satyrs. He then pauses when disco'ed and starts dropping maps on the floor. It annoyed me a bit that he was using the satyr this way and making a mess cause to me it seems a bit twinkish, but i took no action. Then a well known 'magincia gate lover' appeared and began killing any satyr he tried to use. I kind of agree with her actions, and my god did the guy using them whine when she started killing them. I think it annoyed me because he was taking a cheap and easy way of training a skill. Either way, i certainly did nothing to stop her kiling them.

A short while later a fellow appeared at the south side of area, he was training his cu sidhe on pixies that were trapped on the rock. A girl appeard said it was stupid how many people abused the area and critters in it. She got told to STFU by the tamer. She then went on a pixie killing spree. Any pixie on a rock she would whack it, they guy called GMs on her, began trying to train on a trapped changeling, dragged 2 normal changlings and two para changlings onto the people at swoop. The girl sat happily in wield for up to an hour later so i assume the GMs did nothing.

Both girls got screamed at for being a griefer, but i support both of them in thier actions. As the secound girl quite rightly stated, 'never tell someone to STFU when your a twink tamer training on trapped pixies' .

Anyone else feel like joining these two girls actions when you see this sort of thing?

I definitly do. The second incident, I can see people training on them, not a huge deal imo, but the tamer was definitly in the wrong for saying that. I bet if he had just shut his mouth she would have moved on.

The first incident I REALLY am annoyed by. Why is it that OSI feels that Faction stat loss and gaining skills that way was a serious exploit and bannable. While this is used by everyone who can gain doing it. I WANT the Devs to fix this exploit in P41 at the very latest. And I will be sending messages and posting about it on Stratics and here.

on the secound incident i agree. She said what she wanted to say about the way people kept training on trapped pixies then went to walk off. The guy then says:

twink tamer :excuse me

twink tamer :can i ask a favour?

Girl : ok, what?

twink tamer : STFU AND PISS OFF! (or something to this effect)

After which she killed all the pixies. Afterwards she came back over to swoop and said he had called GMs on her for griefing. After he had dragged the changlelings onto us (paras too!), and after hed had been twink training his cu, he got very little sympathy from us. As i said the girl was there for the next hour so no GM seemed to want to bother her heh.