Perhaps they put the controllers there on purpose?

Any Dev care to weigh-in?

~M

If we paged a gm im sure they would put him on the ground and be able to kill him.

i need help im on a newb character with 100% lrc and 10 each resist lol

and i got my daemon to attack the vanguard controller so hes killable

Has anyone tried giving blackrock to a controller? You can give it to the ethereal shadowlords...

~M

That is what I was thinking might have happened to the one that we were fighting at Cove, maybe someone had given it blackrock to see what would happen and BOOM! Like I said earlier I tried to use blackrock with my archer and could not get it to work. Another that was mentioned by Draconi was that the Knight's Armor would have an added property at some point. I could not help but think that if a Knight wears this armor suit while fighting these Vanguard Controllers that it would help in some way.

Ok i got a gm to move the vanguard hes fair game now

You know, it just occurred to me that I'm going to have some serious decisions to make this week. My spouse and daughter are headed to the east coast a few days before I can join them (stupid work). I had planned to chain peerless monsters with Madrid, but now I wonder...

More on topic: Is there any indication of "sides" or any appearance that giving the shadowlords blackrock, wearing a cloak, etc have any effect in this current event thread?

~M

Heres some things i noticed when killing the vanguard-

When i bola'ed the vanguard controller, i saw the dread horse for a second then it poofed, so that means can only tame it after you kill the controller.

When i killed the controller, i got the shield, and the sword, but the cloak was not there, which probably means it randomly spawns in a players backpack like the cloak of corruption.

Vanguard controller teleports around alot, and gets stuck underground (serpents hold is where i saw this) if you kill him while hes underground you wont be able to reach the horse or body to loot, so best to page GM when its redlined then finish it fast.

Very odd.

I wonder if it has meaning in this context, or if they Shadowlords are just referring to a heap of our bodies, and the designers are using a religious phrase to mess with us.

It is worth noting that, in Ultima 4, the game that introduced the Virtues, there were 12 companions that could join the Avatar. (Only 7 or 8 at a time, but 12 in total COULD join you.)

One of them was named Saduj, and he would betray the party in battle.

Saduj is Judas spelled backwards, and Jesus Christ had 12 Apostles. Richard Garriott's intention in Ultima 4 was clearly incorporate religious, specifically Christian, imagery to drive home the fact that the Avatar was a kind of Christ figure for the Ultima universe.

Is Draconi also following this technique? Or is he maybe just messing with us?

Time will tell.

-Galen's player

It may just be that their Latin isn't particularly good, or they just googled one of the many Latin phrases sites out on the net. Every one of the phrases they used can be found with a minimum of effort on one of those Latin phrase sites.

Occam's Razor.

~M

Also - has anyone checked the corrupted wisps next to the Moonglow rift? Perhaps we can now interact with them in some way...?

~M