The Vanguard Attacks! (Some Spoilers)

MalagAste · 24th May 2008, 11:10 PM

I don't think it's a bug I think that the Vanguards are designed so that the top X number of attackers each get a slice of the pie so to speak..... Unfortunatly what this really means is that even though %tage wise one person may do 99% of the damage since they are calculated by Top attackers unfortunatly that seems to win out over anything else.

Maroite · 25th May 2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MalagAste

I don't think it's a bug I think that the Vanguards are designed so that the top X number of attackers each get a slice of the pie so to speak..... Unfortunatly what this really means is that even though %tage wise one person may do 99% of the damage since they are calculated by Top attackers unfortunatly that seems to win out over anything else.

The open corpse seemed to be a glitch in the system and it corrected itself after the server went down. Also, it seems that even if someone is there to do damage, but then leaves before the vanguard dies and you do more damage and no one else damages the vanguard, you can recieve both shields and swords.

Me and my greater dragon can now solo the vanguards, pretty easily. I think my GD can actually do the job alone, and it seems like when I am not around, the vanguard will just fight with her and not bother to spawn anything. Perhaps the spawn is based on player interaction with the vanguard?

MalagAste · 25th May 2008, 11:12 PM

That is an interesting theory.... Perhaps it is correct.... my GD isn't good enough to solo a Vanguard.... but he's getting there

Maroite · 25th May 2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MalagAste

That is an interesting theory.... Perhaps it is correct.... my GD isn't good enough to solo a Vanguard.... but he's getting there

Yeah. Mine is a nice one <3 I love her. She's like family. haha

I died when we engaged the Vanguard, couldn't get invis off. When I got back, she was the only one there and the Vanguard was at 30% or so. She was biting him for 50ish. Her life was around 65-70%. There was also no spawn.

She is definitly a force to be reckoned with!

The_Nickman · 5th June 2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Galen

Very odd.

I wonder if it has meaning in this context, or if they Shadowlords are just referring to a heap of our bodies, and the designers are using a religious phrase to mess with us.

It is worth noting that, in Ultima 4, the game that introduced the Virtues, there were 12 companions that could join the Avatar. (Only 7 or 8 at a time, but 12 in total COULD join you.)

One of them was named Saduj, and he would betray the party in battle.

Saduj is Judas spelled backwards, and Jesus Christ had 12 Apostles. Richard Garriott's intention in Ultima 4 was clearly incorporate religious, specifically Christian, imagery to drive home the fact that the Avatar was a kind of Christ figure for the Ultima universe.

Is Draconi also following this technique? Or is he maybe just messing with us?

Time will tell.

-Galen's player

I know this is old, but I have no idea what you are talking about. I have finished Ultima IV on numerous occasions and the only companions you can have are the 8 originals, one from each virtue town (and of course you can't have the character who's class you are join you either). I've never heard of this Sudaj or any of these other four "extra" companions...

Telerandil · 5th June 2008, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Nickman

I have finished Ultima IV on numerous occasions and the only companions you can have are the 8 originals, one from each virtue town (and of course you can't have the character who's class you are join you either). I've never heard of this Sudaj or any of these other four "extra" companions...

Just to clarify--Saduj is from Ultima V. And yes, he does betray you.

The_Nickman · 9th June 2008, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Telerandil

Just to clarify--Saduj is from Ultima V. And yes, he does betray you.

Oh yeah, in Ultima V you have a much wider variety of companions you can choose from. I still don't remember this Sudaj before, I must've never encountered him or bothered with him before I guess. (Plus I basically only ever stuck to the "original companions" in Ultimas V, VI and VII)...

Lord Target · 10th June 2008, 11:13 PM

Don't know about going to Nu'jelm at all, everything is literally flying through walls to get to me and teleporting right next to me from across the way, even un-blocked monsters.

This caused quite an incident with a demon beserker.

Please at least let us cast area effect in these towns...it's become quite difficult to manage, and it may be just me, but it seems like everything is hitting and moving a LOT harder / faster than it was.

I feel like I'm fighting paragon vanguard spawn that has somehow metaphysically hacked a GM's account and is abusing the 'teleport' feature.

Lady Kylana · 15th June 2008, 02:48 PM

Wow, I left the game for 6 months and come back to this

24th May 2008, 11:10 PM	#231
MalagAste Join Date: Jul 2007 Shard: Great Lakes Posts: 233 Gold: 1,805 My Mood: Thanks: 6 Thanked 33 Times in 25 Posts	Re: The Vanguard Attacks! (Some Spoilers) I don't think it's a bug I think that the Vanguards are designed so that the top X number of attackers each get a slice of the pie so to speak..... Unfortunatly what this really means is that even though %tage wise one person may do 99% of the damage since they are calculated by Top attackers unfortunatly that seems to win out over anything else.

25th May 2008, 11:12 PM	#233
MalagAste Join Date: Jul 2007 Shard: Great Lakes Posts: 233 Gold: 1,805 My Mood: Thanks: 6 Thanked 33 Times in 25 Posts	Re: The Vanguard Attacks! (Some Spoilers) That is an interesting theory.... Perhaps it is correct.... my GD isn't good enough to solo a Vanguard.... but he's getting there

10th June 2008, 11:13 PM	#238
Lord Target Elder Virtue Knight Join Date: May 2008 Shard: Catskills Posts: 278 Gold: 5,158 My Mood: Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 92 Thanked 59 Times in 41 Posts	Re: The Vanguard Attacks! (Some Spoilers) Don't know about going to Nu'jelm at all, everything is literally flying through walls to get to me and teleporting right next to me from across the way, even un-blocked monsters. This caused quite an incident with a demon beserker. Please at least let us cast area effect in these towns...it's become quite difficult to manage, and it may be just me, but it seems like everything is hitting and moving a LOT harder / faster than it was. I feel like I'm fighting paragon vanguard spawn that has somehow metaphysically hacked a GM's account and is abusing the 'teleport' feature. Ultima Online: Mondain's Legacy Client Download Link

15th June 2008, 02:48 PM	#239
Lady Kylana Join Date: Jan 2007 Shard: Chesapeake Posts: 135 Gold: 1,075 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: The Vanguard Attacks! (Some Spoilers) Wow, I left the game for 6 months and come back to this

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