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Old 15th May 2008, 06:44 AM   #1
 
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PvM Mage gear

B4 i quit 3 years ago i gave my magesuit to a friend of mine (nowhere to be found these days tho ), it was a nice suit with 100% lrc, some lmc, mr and good resists.

Now i am trying to put together a new magesuit.

What r typical/must equipments for a necromage? I see that scrappers compendiums and the pendants are quit popular, but what else? And is arcane shield worth it? Or will the shield of invul do just fine?

I see no PvM forum here so sorry that i have to spam the general discussion with PvM questions.

Does anyone sell a full magesuit with nice resists or musthave stuff for mages like the scrappers?

thx in advance.
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Re: PvM Mage gear

I am in no way the ultimate necro/mage, but one thing I love about the combo is the wraithform. With wraithform, you leech back mana from the monsters you inflict damage on, so it helps a ton with building your suit (ie not as much MR needed, although the more MR you have, of course, the better). I went through an entire champ spawn last night and never came close to running out of mana, and never meditated.

One thing to consider, while building your suit, is the availability of Arcane Clothing. If you can't get to 100% lrc on your suit right away, add in arcane boots or robe to make up the difference. If you fail the lrc check, one charge comes off your arcane clothing. I keep a closet full of arcane clothing with 24 charges each, and swap them out when they run dry. They are rechargeable, if you so desire, also, using an arcane gem, though if you find a good vendor, the arcane clothing can be had for very little gold.

Many will swear by items such as the Ornament of the Magician and such, but be prepared to pay through the nose for them.

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Re: PvM Mage gear

Thx for the info.

And what r the caps again?

LMC = 40%
SDI = ?
MR = no cap?
FC/FCR = 2/6?

And i have an ornament, what other items should i aim for? Should i get pendant of the magi? And the tome of lost knowlegde and scrappers r quit useless if i wanna camp bloods/demons right? I mean a slayer spellbook would do much better?

And how important is DCI? I've seen several mages running around with high DCI, they must be PvPers?

edit: Wraith form also leeches mana from spelldamage?...

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Re: PvM Mage gear

UOGuide.com lists the limits as follows:

Spell Damage Increase: no limit in PvE, 15% in PvP.

Mana Regeneration: 18 from items

Faster Casting: based on your template, it is capped at 2 for Mages and Necros, and 4 for Bushido, Ninjitsu, Spellweaving, and Chivalry. If your template has Bush and magery, it is capped at 4 until your magery surpasses 70, at which time it caps at 2.

Faster Casting Recovery: Capped at 6

I used to have a link to a page that showed all of the caps, but cannot find it... if someone has it, could they please post it for us? Thanks!

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Re: PvM Mage gear

I believe the SDI cap on players with items is different than the monster SDI cap (at one point it wasn't limited, I can't confirm this now).

I can't confirm the specific level of the monster cap or even what the possible amount of SDI would be, just figure your maximum will be through items, and once you can't get any more SDI in your hat, ring, and bracelet slots, along with a spellbook, that's pretty much it.

4 slots to work with on the SDI spectrum, then.

I know the cap for PvP isn't affected by the player's natural damage increase by spells, which is determined by natural intelligence (not item-modified) and Evaluating Intelligence.

Monster damage through SDI may very well still be un-capped....so you should be able to get around 70% or so SDI.

The MR cap, I'm not certain. Though you don't need much MR on a necro-mage, as was previously stated, also, LMC will help you much more.

I hope that helps somewhat!

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Re: PvM Mage gear

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And i have an ornament, what other items should i aim for?
You can build a nice suit easy with that thing. You'll need a Totem of the Void.
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Should i get pendant of the magi?
Not really needed with the Ornament, unless you want to replace your resists with MR and more LRC.
The AoF (Armor of Fortune) has a lot of potential in your suit, moreso than the pendant.
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And the tome of lost knowlegde and scrappers r quit useless if i wanna camp bloods/demons right? I mean a slayer spellbook would do much better?
Bloods and demons are easy pickings these days, unless you speak of their paragon counterparts. SDI will obliterate anything you point a spell at. You likely won't need a slayer, but it chalks up to personal preference and how much LMC/LRC/SDI is on your other equipment.
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And how important is DCI? I've seen several mages running around with high DCI, they must be PvPers?
Useful for PvP, and tank/wrestle-mages primarily.

I use a SC HCI/DCI shield because it helps a lot when I have to beat stuff up with my mace. DCI will make things wiff quite a bit when you have lots of it, and is useful both against high-end mobs and other people.
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edit: Wraith form also leeches mana from spelldamage?...
Yes, not as much as it used to, but enough that a certain percentage of the damage is taken and then another percentage is returned as mana...weird calculation I can't really follow, but the end result is getting your mana back.

The Honor virtue is another good way to do this for a PvM character.
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Re: PvM Mage gear

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You can build a nice suit easy with that thing. You'll need a Totem of the Void.
Not really needed with the Ornament, unless you want to replace your resists with MR and more LRC.
The AoF (Armor of Fortune) has a lot of potential in your suit, moreso than the pendant.
Bloods and demons are easy pickings these days, unless you speak of their paragon counterparts. SDI will obliterate anything you point a spell at. You likely won't need a slayer, but it chalks up to personal preference and how much LMC/LRC/SDI is on your other equipment.
Useful for PvP, and tank/wrestle-mages primarily.

I use a SC HCI/DCI shield because it helps a lot when I have to beat stuff up with my mace. DCI will make things wiff quite a bit when you have lots of it, and is useful both against high-end mobs and other people.
Yes, not as much as it used to, but enough that a certain percentage of the damage is taken and then another percentage is returned as mana...weird calculation I can't really follow, but the end result is getting your mana back.

The Honor virtue is another good way to do this for a PvM character.
Why does the AoF have more potential than the pendant? I mean AoF only gives 10% LRC more and little resists while the pendant has 10 LMC, MR 3 and 5% SDI.

And i think i made a big mistake by buying the RBC, at first i found it a very nice item, but now i see this item u mentioned; Totem of the void...

Totem + RBC + Orny + Pendant = 45% lmc is a bit overkill. Now normally this 5% wouldnt matter to me but now i am really having problems trying to get my resist to a decent lvl (all 60).


My current gear:

head: hat of magi
neck: pendant
chest: RBC
sleeves: none
legs: none
gloves: none
ring: none
brace: orny
shield: Thinking of getting shield of invul. But i prefer a SC shield with good resists if there are any.



current stats:
- 5/8/23/23/49
- 50% lrc
- 10 MR (this is enough i think)
- 35% (capped 40% with totem)
- SDI 15%
- 2/3 FC/FCR

Where do i go from here? Should i get rid of the RBC and get playermade stuff?
Id like to have a full 100% lrc suit with 40% lmc, decent mr and around 60 in all resists. Is SDI important? Or is it just a nice extra?
All id like to do is PvM solo.

And isnt lichform better than wraith form?


thx in advance

edit: come to think of it, are there any totems with resists?

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Re: PvM Mage gear

There are no totems with resists, so far as I know.

There are a couple of good shields to look for. One is the shield of invulnerability. It's cheap, it has a little bit of physical resist. It has DCI. If you like getting down and dirty with monsters, it's a nice one to have. I use the arcane shield. It has fast cast, which puts me at 3/5 FC/FCR (With my scrappers, I have 4/6... spellweaving is capped at 4 FC, but that's for another topic entirely). Also, the Vesper chaos shield has 1/2 FC/FCR. The good thing about that is that with the orny (2/3), you would only need to find one FCR point on your ring to max out your FC/FCR. The arcane shield wouldn't serve you well since you don't need FC any more, leaving the invuln shield or a shield with a few elemental resists, which aren't that hard to find.

If I were you I'd keep the RBC. I like having extra mana regeneration.

The form you use depends a lot on what you hunt. If you're hunting in Doom, you could flame strike the Dark Father all day long and never run out of mana, so long as you use wraith form. I've noticed a lot more people hunt peerless in lich form than wraith form, but I've never been a fan of lich form myself, so I couldn't tell you why it would be better for peerless.

For the rest of your pieces, assuming you have the gold, I would go with high resist player made pieces to fill out what you still need in a suit, specifically LRC and stat increases.

The suit that I put together is: Kasa of raj-in, RBC, pendant of the magi, totem of the void and the rest is runic with LRC, LMC, MR or DCI. But I like doing champs. Doing champ spawns without DCI is murder. Literally.

Or... You could replace the RBC with the AoF then pay out the nose just for very high resist items with a little bit of LRC.

Or... You could just to runic on the whole thing and tailor your armor to what you think your needs are.

Or... Yeah, I think the possibilities are endless. Just leave your spellbook slot open for whatever you need to have in your hand at the time. Personally, I have a full set of super slayers and a scrappers on me at all times. I kind of need the scrappers since it has 16% LRC, which puts me over 100% LRC if I use my high resist kasa instead of my 20% LRC hat, which I only wear now when I'm hunting things I need a slayer book for.

And it's things like that that make me miss the old days when people would just throw on some GM leather armor and go out killing. But then I kill an arctic ogre lord with 3 flame strikes and have mana left over and forget all about the old days, when killing the arctic ogre lords would take about a minute each and leave me drained of mana.
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Re: PvM Mage gear

On my mage I use Stitcher´s Mittens as gloves. Good LRC item with decent resists...

Healing +10
Dexterity Bonus 5
Lower Reagent Cost 30%
Physical Resist 20%
Fire Resist 3%
Cold Resist 20%
Poison Resist 4%
Energy Resist 4%
Strength Requirement 10
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Re: PvM Mage gear

I am still struggling with the resists. I think i will get rid of the RBC.

If i had to choose between resists, which one has the highest priority in PvM? I assume phys and fire are the most important? And cold the least?

edit: I've decided to use the RBC, and i manage to collect together some nice resists for the other parts.


Now my next question is (sorry for all the questions):"What is a good mage totem? I dont need totem of the void anymore."

thx in advance!

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