There are problems in UO dating back to Beta, but how can you honestly expect them to fix these problems if they are spending time and resources fixing problems caused by Scripters, dupers and punks. The Devs have their hands full doing more with less. PB is tool that will make an even play field for everyone.

How can you say even for 1

If you choose not to install it then were forced to play with
the cheater's and you call that even. Not to say witch shard gonna be made for it.

Would you like it if it was your shard?
I for one would'nt.

Nothing done when u call on them i know at least 3 ive called on
and there still playing never been banned ty

i dont condone scripters nor do i dupers But....
there's got to be a program thats less intrusive.

I agree something need's to be done about them as well.
I work hard in uo as many other honest people do as well

As far as with less then maybe they need more gm's
to address the problems and do something about them
instead of sending you to a site or saying will look into it
when there called on thank you and good day.

You say this programs safe can stop cheater's and so on then answer this and it come's directily from punks site as well and i also like answer to the router problem's this program has as well as nortons and msA serious security (buffer overrun) flaw involving PunkBuster was recently discovered and reported. This flaw affects the optional WebTool component of PunkBuster servers on all platforms and for all supported games. This flaw does not affect game players (the PunkBuster Client) nor default installations of the PunkBuster Server, only PB Server installations where the server admin configured the use of the pb_sv_httpPort setting. An attacker with knowledge of the flaw can exploit it by crashing the game server at will. New PB Server Version v1.229 which addresses the flaw began going out for all supported games via our auto-update system within a few hours of the report. Any and all PB Server admins who use the WebTool are strongly encouraged to verify that they are running version v1.229 or higher of the PB Server on all of their servers that have PunkBuster enabled. And it also collective data it can send as well if they wanted to good day

Like Windows, Linux or any other program or operating system, exploits are found and fixed. It is up to the Admin to on top of his or her game. Perhaps a board game is much more safer for those with too many issues.

I agree.

This is to maddux
Im currently researching other program's and when i find other's that have had less problem's as well as less conflict of interest as far as in nortons ms and firewall's i will be posting them here as well

My one and only concern with this is the potential for those UO scripters and hackers to gain access to PB. What is to say will stop those very hackers from doing it to PB, and then gaining access to their database. I dont know if this is possible, as I am just a computer user, and dont know jack about all that stuff. But doesnt it seem plausible that it could happen? These gamer hackers have proven to be pretty intelligent when it comes to this. It could only be a matter of time before they start hijacking accounts.....

Yes.

You are VERY misinformed. PunkBuster only scans your computer (and likely only the random access memory, i.e., the programs you actually have up and running) and scans for corruption of the base program (UO in this case) to see if you have done anything to the program itself which might result in you having an advantage over others.

That is all.

I would give you the song and verse of this, the reasoning behind why this MUST be the case, but, I've been waging this battle on Stratics exhaustively, and simply have come to the conclusion that people who wish to think that there is a company out there who...

1. Has been in business for around 6 years, serving millions of customers, with contracts with Id, EA, Blizzard and a host of other gaming giants, with presumably dozens or hundreds of former employees who could "blow the whistle" on their former employer, and has not had ONE verified complaint of ONE employee violating ONE customer's privacy or stealing ONE person's private information;

2. That EA, Blizzard, Id and other software giants would willingly enter into a contract with a company which would allow the employees of that company to "root around" in THEIR CUSTOMERS' computers without making DAMN SURE that the program simply would ALLOW for that to happen;

3. That PunkBuster, a company founded for the purpose of catching CHEATERS, has coded a program which stealthily and CRIMINALLY roots around in your computer to seek out your financial information, knowing that doing so would subject them to lawsuits by the individual customers, lawsuits by software giants such as Id, EA, and Blizzard, subject themselves individually to criminal prosecution and the corporation to criminal penalties, and would, ultimately, put them out of business is a SINGLE complaint was verified that the PROGRAM allowed such abuse since not a single gaming company would allow themselves to have their customers harmed in such a fashion knowingly (subjecting THEMSELVES to the penalties described above);

4. That, in a business sense, EA has no incentive to allow itself to associate with a program which does what you describe. In fact, it has every incentive NOT to allow it to do what you describe.

5. That, in a business sense, PunkBuster has no incentive to allow itself to publish a program which does what you describe if it desires to stay in business, unless you think that it is, in fact, a criminal enterprise that has been successful at just "not getting caught" for the past 6 or so years.

6. That the contract itself (the ToS) when read with an eye to the construction of contracts (not by people who have little facility with the English language, let alone any ability to interpret contracts) CLEARLY sets forth the object of the contract between PunkBuster and the ultimate consumer (you) in which ANY action which does not directly relate to catching cheaters would breach that contract and, if there is a harm done (whether an actual harm (such as identity theft and ruination of credit, or an intangible harm (such as the very invasion of privacy)) then they would be liable (have to pay money...)

7. That DarkScribe, a representative of EA, who, in this regard, has the power to BIND EA by his words, has made a CLEAR statement that PunkBuster DOES NOT do what you state it does, with the full knowledge that his representations, if they are REASONABLY RELIED UPON (as we would be doing) to our HARM, then his representations would subject EA to significant financial liability. Yet, even though we all are used to the "wiggle words" from EA representatives on even the most MINOR of issues, we have a clear and strong statement by DarkScribe on this issue which cannot be misinterpreted.

I have decided that, no matter the logic, no matter the track record, no matter what anyone says, there are simply some people you cannot convince. There is the "possibility" of some "little old lady" or some "acne faced teen-ager" rooting around in their computers, so that' enough for them....no matter how unlikely or untrue this belief is.

Sigh.