oh... they could just leave the whining at the stables.. cause you know they are tamers

Crying is a verb. 1st definition: calling for notice <a crying need> , 2nd definition:notorious, heinous <a crying shame>

Deal with the change like anyone else does when they find their templete has just been nerfed.

jfk, I did not reply to your post nor did I specifically mention your name. Appy your definition of "assume" before you post what can be construed as a direct attack on me. If you have an issue send me or a moderater a pm.

Nice. No answers about legitimate gripes that WILL affect only "day to day" players and NOT scripters. Only slams on Trammel players. This place gets more like Stratics every day. Seems there used to be good discussions here.

Oh, and Lemon, FWIW, the character that is affected most for me is my PvM dexxer, not a tamer. You know what they say about the word "assume".

I have edited my original message. Maddux you obviously posted as I made the changes. As you can see, you also "assumed" that I was replying to you and not Lemon. PM's work both ways.

Oh, and as I mentioned in my original post, I have already compensated for my template "being nerfed". But thanks for the suggestion.

it didn't effect my pvm dexxer.. at all :| Sacred Journey works just like recall.. find spots that aren't the norm.. duh I don't want this to turn into a flame war.. just stop thinking that changes are always for the worst.. theres always new ways to do things.

As I mentioned, I have it covered. Nor do I want it to be a flame war. There are a LOT of things about this publish that I think are good. The difficult thing for someone who hasn't played this game for years is that I DO still depend on loot to build my bank. For others that may not be a problem, but it does now hamper my ability to do that in my limited time. If I had a few hundred mill in the bank it wouldn't be a big deal, but I'm still "building my empire" so to speak. Sorry if either you or Maddux took it the wrong way, it's been a long and bad day and I should have taken my bosses advice and waited until tomorrow to respond to both posts. My apologies to both of you.

like I said.. think of other ways to make money :| thats what Ultima is all about. Freeeeeeedom! Control what you are in the game, don't let the game control you

Well said Lemon!

I have to side with jfk here, as a casual gamer and PvMer this hurts me a lot more, with my few hundred thousand on the bank than my guildmates who live online and have hundreds of millions from selling stat scrolls and artis.
But playing casually and a classic PvM Dexxer I can't compete with that and have to rely on old school loot.

I went to doom last night.. for about 3 hours.. I got about 5 arties, aof, ring of elements, divine countenance, and leggings of bane. How casual is that?