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well like i say...ive got a good machine and KR still sucks for playing?? can the devs plz decide what the miniumn spec. is to play KR ((or)) if we need to dbl our upgrades to say ... 2ghz cpu minum!!
with a massive #1gig ram and #512 graphics card????????????...mmmmmmmmmm

#IVE RECHECKED SPECS !! my setup is 2.4ghz cpu with 128mb graphics card..but stilL this should chew KR!! and 512mb ram.....jeepers is that bad????

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I am not sure I understand your post, Are saying the KR client is unplayable? Well it's a good thing we can all enjoy the goodness of the current 2D client. The KR client plays OK-ish on my machine, but I just do not like it.

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I believe you are exaggerating a bit. Most people are having no problem running KR. Anyone with a machine less than 5 or 6 years old should be OK unless they have other problems with their hardware and OS configuration.

I do agree KR is less playable than the 2D client; for me, that might be caused by the fact that I really don't like the graphics (especially after trying the LOTRO trial) and I haven't taken the time to get used to the new keystrokes that are required.

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I wouldn't go so far as to say KR is unplayable for most players. There are still a good number of players unable to even login or run KR but it's not the majority anymore.

On that note, KR is a resource hog and it makes a dramatic improvement in playability if you have a newer graphics card in your system.

Also if your system has less than 1 gig of RAM nowadays then it's lagging behind. Memory is pretty cheap. Upgrade to at least 1gig.

I do agree that the devs need to pony up and put out some realistic specs for good playability. Wishing, wanting, hoping and praying that a P3 1.0 Ghz CPU will play KR just isn't cutting it. I don't believe that anything less than a P4 2.8 Ghz or AMD Athlon XP 2600+ makes much sense to even try to run KR on. Integrated graphics chip? Forget about it.

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I run KR on a laptop with no amazing specs, so?

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I'm guessing your laptop has dedicated video memory.

KR still has quite different results on different setups. A few GeForce cards has troubles (5200 FX being one I've read often lately), some Radeon, and most to all motherboard integrated video chips all have trouble with KR.

A few hardware things to note with KR right now:

1. You will need 2 gig of DDR RAM. Not just for KR, but really for just about everything reasonably current.
2. You will want to have a card with at least 256Meg video RAM. If you're on a desktop, you'll want it to be a separate card and NOT integrated in the motherboard, on a laptop you will want it to be DEDICATED video RAM and not Shared.

Next are internal settings... I will go "by the Tab" in User Settings

Tab 1: Graphics:

1. If you're running Fullscreen, try reducing the resolution. KR will tend to run these better on lower end systems (up to the point of ONLY running in 800x600 for the lowest end machines)

2. Show Shadows: This should be turned OFF for lower end systems and will help lag on higher end systems as well. For now, I'm running with it off until more optimizations are put in.

3. Particle Detail: Start at Medium, tweak based on perfornamce.

4. Cache sliders: some judicious playing with these should show some difference in performance. To be honest I haven't tested it too much.

5. No Idle animations: For those who complained about the 3d "swaying" (in the old 3d client and in KR) this will turn it off and the characters will stay "2d still".

Tab 5: Interface:

1. Show Chat Window: Right now there is an issue that causes the System message window tab of the chat window to cause a good bit of lag (VERY HEAVY lag in the case of TargetbyResource macros). Here you have two options: A. Turn Show Chat Window off, or B: Have the Chat tab of the window active and the System tab hidden behind it (when they are joined).

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Just fyi, since Dermott mentioned it, we think we've pinned down the mouse cursor disappearance bug (plus a memory leak, at the same time - two for one!) and we're working on a fix.

E. Jeremy Dalberg
UO Community Coordinator
EA Mythic

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While you're at it, hows about fixing all the legacy client world art you fellas trashed for the sake of an untested alpha client?

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SWEET! Thanks Jeremy! And to the rest of the team as well!

Those two will be HUGE once patched.

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A reply in general to all of the "I have a XXX Meg video card and it doesn't run" posts.

This information is patently USELESS whining if you don't tell us WHAT card you are running.

Some cards do not play KR well, some do, sometimes all you need are updated drivers. However just the amount of video RAM you have doesn't tell us much because I and other have or had a 256 Meg card that DOES run KR (I upgraded to a 512Meg 7950 GT because I wanted to, but the 256 Meg 6800GT works as well).

Without the information, it's just whining.


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I and other have or had a 256 Meg card that DOES run KR (I upgraded to a 512Meg 7950 GT because I wanted to, but the 256 Meg 6800GT works as well).

I have a 64MB GeForce4 MX440 that runs KR just fine, if I scale the graphics settings of KR to be within what the card can handle.

I'll say it again.
Running the game windowed will result in decreased performance, compared to if you ran it full-screen. Even if the game window is maximised, it still counts as windowed.
The rendering requirements are directly proportional to the rendering area. Thus, when you maximise the window, you're massively increasing the rendering requirements in a situation where performance is already compromised.

One last thing for this post:
If you run a dual monitor system,you can run KR full-screen on one monitor, and still move the mouse between the monitors, without having to do anything fancy to "escape" KR.

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..which is why Darkscribe got his walking papers.

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Seeing as Darkscribe is still employed by EA,just working on another project,I think thats unlikely...tabby

i heard a rumor that KR may become mandatory, which i think is retarded, one because some uo players computer cant run it ( actually make that most uo players ) two because alot of people prefer the 2D look, i just wish their was a way to show them how much money they would lose if they made it mandatory..i realized they want to livin up UO because yes it is dieing slowly, but making KR mandatory is not the way..its gonna die faster that way. lol

anyone heard anything about it lately?, if so lemme know plz id like to sell my accounts before it happens heh.

I had heard back at last year's UO Town Hall in Chicago that KR would be required to access Stygian Abyss, but that's the last I heard.

I love KR, so I wouldn't mind it.

Oh! I hope not. I dont like KR . . . for my eyes (I have bad eyes) it is too much honestly for me to take in, not to mention it kills my computer, i get serious lag and I hate the setup.

Please folks, not another 2D vs KR flamewar! (even though it's not real flaming because thankfully everybody around here is quite polite, we already got enough of these threads. just my 2c...)

My info is a little newer than Kitiara's, I was actually AT last month's town hall meeting in Jacksonville Fl and they tried real hard not to even mention KR or Stygian Abyss [yes, kr is supposed to be the only way to run SA], but honestly they just refused to discuss either in any substantive way. No update. no release date, nada......

I think that a new client would be a good thing for Ultima Online, but whether that new client is Kingdom Reborn or some other incarnation somewhere down the line, they are going to have to make it both playable and enjoyable for their core playerbase. They haven't managed to do that yet. I personally like it, but its not very playable on my old computer.

Anyways though, the last I heard was that Kingdom Reborn will be required for access to the Stygian Abyss. They said that they wont be getting rid of the legacy client unless they can get 80% of the playerbase actively using Kingdom Reborn.

QUoted ftw

I wonder really what is going on with SA..? they binned it?

I just wish KR wouldn't crash so often. Other than that, I like it much better than 2D.

Please fix the crashes.

~M

Old topic and the discussion is on stratics (or was), but anyways i have to say it....


Yes this is bad, assuming he runs atleast Windows XP then 512mb is by far too less for any serious software or most of the games (including KR).

The OS (Windows XP) uses alot of memory plus it might also run shared memory, depends on the system setup.

In other words he probably only does have about 200mb of free ram for any software/games which is seriously too less, he should upgrade to 2GB because it's standard today and ram sticks are really very very cheap nowadays.
200mb free, now he runs ICQ or trillian, has some internet explorer or firefox windows open, antivir software etc. + UOKR or any other game for that matter and his ram is more than just full, it's overloaded and begins to burn

128mb graphiccard, it depends what graphiccard, if he has a ATI Radeon 9800 pro 128mb graphiccard, then i have to say that his card is not only bad, but also very !!!!ty even for just isometric games.

Pretty dumb on EA's part to release a new client that needs a better system to run than WoW does and looks much worse