So anyone hear anything about thieves being able to do more in the Kingdom Reborn, such as steal insurable items at a certain skill level etc. That would be awesome if ya ask me. It seems that Siege is one of the only viable places for a true thief these days. Discuss

lol if they allowed that so many people would leaving uo like crazy for real i would be pissed as hell if i had the IR and they got jacked while insured or the orny or the HoM lol ya know

Thief will always be nerf'd.

I think its a good idea, but not insured items your wearing, how about insured items that are in your backpack. People will be more careful with what they take with them. I'll certainly be stealing runebooks. HAHA

Such is truth.

Being able to steal insured items kind of defeats the whole idea of insurance in the first place. No, as long as there is insurance, there will be thief nerfdom.

I also think insured items should be stealable. Why on Earth would they introduce a feature to near completely phase out an entire skill in the game? I think the DOOM stealables are retarded, although they do add a bit more for a thief to do (which I do like, don't get me wrong). But that's about ALL a thief can do. I also think UO should have a feature built into the snooping skill so that you can use a move called 'shake bag' or something. So you can risk detection by shaking the player's pack and scattering the items. This way the players can't always hide their crap under newbied/blessed stuff. Cause I thought that too was really retarded also.

That's my 2 cents.

Well peronally I think that thieves should not be able to steal insured items. I remember when I first started playing UO I always had guys looking in my backpack and it was annoying. If they want to make a special Shard for thieves that cool but good luck haveing any one to steal from.

The answer to the latter half of your question is bad game design. And don't think Stealing is the only skill rendered useless by AOS. Item ID and Arms Lore are broken/pointless skills as well.

The answer to the former half of your question is simply, that's how it has to be. The developers of AOS knew they were introducing overpowered, difficult to acquire (difficult in the sense that armor is random and therefore unique) and that to lose that armor, be it looted or stolen, would be devastating and a huge setback to any player. You shouldn't be able to disarm some guy's super-sword that he's spent years and millions of gold trying to acquire and then steal it in the next second despite it being insured. That's just BS.

I personally think that insurable items are only insured if worn. Anything else in the backpack should be able to be stolen except newbie/blessed. ...or have insured items rate go up according to the ratio of the value of the item. If you don't like it, hang out in Trammel. Just my 2 cents...

Allowing insured items to be stealable in Fel will only further push people away from going into Fel. I don't go there to often as it is. If you could steal insured items then I guess I would say you can keep Fel and I am sure many other would do the same. Thieves would end up stealing from the same people who are there all the time and that does not sound like fun.

UO needs to do things to encourage coming to Fel not discouraging people even more.

Right, and the main reason you don't want people stealing your insured items is because usually these insured items are unique/valuable/hard to replace. I say, fix items first, then insurance can be "fixed" to a point where stealing things besides bandages or reagents from players is more feasible.

Your all forgetting one thing, got to a harrier, or normal spawn and steal the 120 magery/+25 stat scroll. Simple. An easy few million in the bank.