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Old 14th May 2008, 10:03 PM   #1
 
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Question How Does A Tamer/Bard Gain Honor?

I'm a Tamer/Discorder/Peacer at 3rd dot of Follower and I gain Honor slower than an arthritic, uniplegic snail climbing up a wall!

These are my "effective" skills:
Taming = 120
Lore = 120
Vet = 120
Music = 115
Disco = 120
Peace = 115
Chiv = 50

Are there any Honor-gaining secret tricks? What should I Honor? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 14th May 2008, 10:06 PM   #2
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Re: How Does A Tamer/Bard Gain Honor?

I hope this is a little helpful How do I use / gain virtues?

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Old 14th May 2008, 10:17 PM   #3
 
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Re: How Does A Tamer/Bard Gain Honor?

Hmm. I may not have been clear in my post. I have gained to approximately mid Honor and I do, in fact, understand the mechnics of gaining and using Honor. I have achieved Knight status in Honor on Mages and Melee chars. What I do not understand is how to efficiently and speedily gain Honor as a Tamer/Bard.

Sorry but the post you referenced doesn't appear to answer my question. It appears to be UO's brief manual of Honor functionality and not the secrets of gaining Honor. Am I missing something?
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Re: How Does A Tamer/Bard Gain Honor?

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Honorable combat is defined as:

* Allowing your opponent to damage you first. (Even if you do the first damage you still gain honor)
* Engaging in one-on-one combat
* Not using ranged weapons, unless you stay in the same spot where you honored your opponent, or you only damage your opponent while adjacent to them. (This is not the case anymore. Archers can gain honor even if they don't stay in the same spot)
* Not allowing your pets or summoned creatures to help you during the battle. (Again, this is not the case anymore. Pets and summons can help you gain honor. Tamers DO take a penalty on honor. At level 2, we can only gain from balrons, swoops, ancient wyrm, etc. Basically, monsters with fame in excess of 15000, according to uo.com and uo.stratics.com bestiary guides. Can still get to knight, just takes ALOT longer.)
* Avoiding the use of poison.

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Old 14th May 2008, 10:32 PM   #5
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Here is the beastary on Stratics with fame/karma
UO Stratics - Fame and Karma Gain

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Re: How Does A Tamer/Bard Gain Honor?

Okay
I just killed (by pet only no Bard intervention) 32 Honored Ice Fiends (Ice lvl 2) which I believe are Balrons. My Honor increased from 3rd dot Follower to....3rd dot Follower. Not all that impressive really.

This is what I am trying to avoid...wasting game time. There must be a better way???
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Re: How Does A Tamer/Bard Gain Honor?

not sure what to tell you, the pet gives you the penalty.I'm sure some tamers will be on in the morning who can give some advice.

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Re: How Does A Tamer/Bard Gain Honor?

I am sooo proud of my UO Honor accomplishments!!!
I started out with only 3rd dot Follower and then my char killed 32 Honored Ice Deamons (Balrons) without Bard intervention. I am so proud that we gained from 3rd dot Follower all the way up to 3rd dot Follower! This is a testament to diligence and perseverance...absolute zero gain!!!

Then the best is yet to come! I am sooooo entirely proud that my my char killed (via pets and no Bardic influence) 32 Honored Sphynx and gained exactly nothing, zero, ziltch, nada, nothing. Not a single Honor gain. And yet, the Sphynx is the eleventh most likely creature to afford my char a gain.

So after killing 32 Ice Deamons and 32 Sphinxs, my char gained absolutlely zero Honor, I am soooo proud and happy. This is as it should be! Screw me!!!
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Re: How Does A Tamer/Bard Gain Honor?

For what its worth, I don't believe barding it up will effect the gains one way or another.
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Re: How Does A Tamer/Bard Gain Honor?

Ice Fiends are much lower karma/fame than balrons! Try the real balron, ancient wyrms, or succubi for a true opponent. Maybe paragon versions of some lower monsters might work too. On a bard, honor the critter, area peace (not direct peace), and commence spelling with a slayer spellbook some vortex, ebolts,etc. Your discording the monster will help too, and not detract from gaining honor. If you use a pet, make sure it is in guard mode. And most important...try not to honor yourself, (been there and done that way too many times).

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