Guys Calm Down, It is Just Beta

JCtheBuilder · 27-06-2007, 03:13 PM

Not anymore!

http://www.uoherald.com/news/

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**bendavho** · 27-06-2007, 03:16 PM

Just a bit to soon, I feel they are pushing UO:KR, why release a client still full of bugs! I still cant even move in that client!

**Vepl** · 27-06-2007, 03:53 PM

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Vepl

Warsong of LS · 27-06-2007, 05:42 PM

Why?

Because they need to really push on to SA and the 10th anniversary editions which will make them money.

This was/is "free" so it could not be delayed too much.

Although I am shocked that it was released as unfinished as it is.

Can anyone explain how this is going to draw in and retain new players? How about getting vet players to come back?

I can not see how? Cause if you download it, start up, see all the problems as you try to play would you stay if you were a totally new player?

**DiP** · 27-06-2007, 05:55 PM

**Maddux** · 27-06-2007, 06:08 PM

MansonNails · 27-06-2007, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DiP

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exactly.

Aquila · 28-06-2007, 05:05 AM

have you guys seen earlier that this buggy game will get released?

Bo · 28-06-2007, 05:47 AM

perfect timing I say! I come home for my R&R on Sunday and have a full day of UO til my wife gets home on Monday!

Bring it on!!!

**kingtony** · 28-06-2007, 06:02 AM

wel looks like they have to workout the bugs quicker then we all expected ,,this will backfire on them i hope it dosen't but it will

**Vepl** · 28-06-2007, 06:55 AM

Don't think it "will" backfire on them. I think it "has" backfired on them. It's tough for the Pro EA group to keep saying this team is different. When it's ............ not

. Edit: Maybe we need to stop blaming the dev team and lay it at the feet of upper management. If every dev team has the same problem. It may not be the team. /Edit

Kinda sad, patched last night and logged in. You can't see the artwork for a mare when walking. Your character "looks" like it is sitting really bow legged. If you run the animation is there. Then to see snow leopards looking like imps. Thankfully it was past my bedtime so I logged. Not trying to imply I will not use KR. Just sad it went out, even before I (a pretty easy to please type of guy) thought it was ready

Vepl

**kitiara** · 28-06-2007, 09:28 AM

I hope they kept the "bug report" feature in the UI...

I'm particularly surprised for them to announce the client out of beta when they're still actively making changes and soliciting feedback (under the "What can you look forward in the weeks to come?" part of Cohen's post). I mean... doesn't that still mean... beta?

Though we've never experienced any sort of in-place, non-fee-based upgrade like this in UO before. The notion of ongoing improvements of this magnitude is foreign. (I mean, there are still some BIG things that need to be fixed, particularly with animations - the mares, like Vepl mentioned, for example).

I don't understand the motivation, unless they just want MORE people to log in to KR and give feedback, and figure that if they say it's open to everyone then those who generally avoid beta software will jump in too.

Side note - it's just about impossible to ship even release quality software with no bugs. Windows, for example (just the OS, not applications that run within Windows like Internet Explorer) - Vista shipped with 27 known "high severity" bugs (12 of which have been fixed in its first 6 months of release). XP shipped with 39 known "high severity" bugs (36 of which were fixed within its first 6 months of release). This doesn't include the thousands of less critical bugs. Sources - http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?si...39247&from=rss and http://security.itworld.com/4347/070...ng/page_1.html

This isn't an unusual move that EA has made.

It sucks that I no longer have my beta excuse anymore, though.

I haven't loaded the latest patch yet, though was impressed with the 6/22 patch. Not bad - 2 patches in less than a week, with each patch fixing more and more bugs.

I'm going to resist judgment of this move until I get in game on this latest patch that came with the un-beta announcement. The game is already 99% playable for me (assuming I only die 1% of the time, since that's when I crash).

27-06-2007, 03:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
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27-06-2007, 03:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
bendavho Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Shard: Lake Austin Posts: 3,664 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Guys Calm Down, It is Just Beta Just a bit to soon, I feel they are pushing UO:KR, why release a client still full of bugs! I still cant even move in that client! __________________

27-06-2007, 03:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
Vepl Forum Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Shard: Lake Superior Posts: 3,718 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Guys Calm Down, It is Just Beta ! Vepl __________________ Another Quality Job by Atlas607 Member of KS Last edited by Vepl; 27-06-2007 at 04:00 PM. Reason: Forgot the exclamtion mark*

27-06-2007, 05:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
Warsong of LS Join Date: Apr 2007 Shard: Lake Superior Posts: 637 Thanks: 15 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Guys Calm Down, It is Just Beta Why? Because they need to really push on to SA and the 10th anniversary editions which will make them money. This was/is "free" so it could not be delayed too much. Although I am shocked that it was released as unfinished as it is. Can anyone explain how this is going to draw in and retain new players? How about getting vet players to come back? I can not see how? Cause if you download it, start up, see all the problems as you try to play would you stay if you were a totally new player? __________________ Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment

27-06-2007, 05:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
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27-06-2007, 06:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
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28-06-2007, 05:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
Aquila Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 80 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Guys Calm Down, It is Just Beta have you guys seen earlier that this buggy game will get released?

28-06-2007, 05:47 AM	#9 (permalink)
Bo July cant get here quick enough. buh bye Qatar! Join Date: Sep 2005 Shard: Baja Posts: 2,724 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Guys Calm Down, It is Just Beta perfect timing I say! I come home for my R&R on Sunday and have a full day of UO til my wife gets home on Monday! Bring it on!!! __________________

28-06-2007, 06:02 AM	#10 (permalink)
kingtony How do you tell when you run out of invisible ink? Join Date: Jan 2007 Shard: alantic Posts: 2,835 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Guys Calm Down, It is Just Beta wel looks like they have to workout the bugs quicker then we all expected ,,this will backfire on them i hope it dosen't but it will

28-06-2007, 06:55 AM	#11 (permalink)
Vepl Forum Legend Join Date: Oct 2006 Shard: Lake Superior Posts: 3,718 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Guys Calm Down, It is Just Beta Don't think it "will" backfire on them. I think it "has" backfired on them. It's tough for the Pro EA group to keep saying this team is different. When it's ............ not . Edit: Maybe we need to stop blaming the dev team and lay it at the feet of upper management. If every dev team has the same problem. It may not be the team. /Edit Kinda sad, patched last night and logged in. You can't see the artwork for a mare when walking. Your character "looks" like it is sitting really bow legged. If you run the animation is there. Then to see snow leopards looking like imps. Thankfully it was past my bedtime so I logged. Not trying to imply I will not use KR. Just sad it went out, even before I (a pretty easy to please type of guy) thought it was ready Vepl __________________ Another Quality Job by Atlas607 Member of KS Last edited by Vepl; 28-06-2007 at 07:01 AM. Reason: An after thought*

28-06-2007, 09:28 AM	#12 (permalink)
kitiara Polar Bear Queen Join Date: Nov 2006 Shard: Atlantic & Lake Austin Posts: 4,103 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Guys Calm Down, It is Just Beta I hope they kept the "bug report" feature in the UI... I'm particularly surprised for them to announce the client out of beta when they're still actively making changes and soliciting feedback (under the "What can you look forward in the weeks to come?" part of Cohen's post). I mean... doesn't that still mean... beta? Though we've never experienced any sort of in-place, non-fee-based upgrade like this in UO before. The notion of ongoing improvements of this magnitude is foreign. (I mean, there are still some BIG things that need to be fixed, particularly with animations - the mares, like Vepl mentioned, for example). I don't understand the motivation, unless they just want MORE people to log in to KR and give feedback, and figure that if they say it's open to everyone then those who generally avoid beta software will jump in too. Side note - it's just about impossible to ship even release quality software with no bugs. Windows, for example (just the OS, not applications that run within Windows like Internet Explorer) - Vista shipped with 27 known "high severity" bugs (12 of which have been fixed in its first 6 months of release). XP shipped with 39 known "high severity" bugs (36 of which were fixed within its first 6 months of release). This doesn't include the thousands of less critical bugs. Sources - http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?si...39247&from=rss and http://security.itworld.com/4347/070...ng/page_1.html This isn't an unusual move that EA has made. It sucks that I no longer have my beta excuse anymore, though. I haven't loaded the latest patch yet, though was impressed with the 6/22 patch. Not bad - 2 patches in less than a week, with each patch fixing more and more bugs. I'm going to resist judgment of this move until I get in game on this latest patch that came with the un-beta announcement. The game is already 99% playable for me (assuming I only die 1% of the time, since that's when I crash). __________________ [UOCraft.com] - [Photography: Blog - Photo Gallery - Flickr] - [Other Blogs: Bird Blog - Geek Blog]

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