Off topic a bit, but I have been reading your site Chad, and I must say, it looks like hella fun. I am almost wanting to make one. Question, if you are in wraith form, do you not get bumped into? Or do you have to act as if you are like in wolf form, and still stick close to rocks and walls? Either way, I am thinking of reactivating my second acct just to make the template. I am full on my main, but have 5 slots on second one..

No they do not bump into you at all as long as you keep still, but if you move near someone you get revealed which is retarded. I get revelaed even at 120 stealth. Also, the earthquake spell i beleive revelas you, which I do not understand either since you are FLOATING in wraith form. So i pick a spot and camp there and until someone get close. It's funny how people tend to stand inthe same spot after they runa round. Does anyone know if you can be seen by a ghost when you are hiding? or trakced? Someone pointed me out so either they tracked me or spotted me when I was invised or are running scripts. I think the last but who know.

Also watch out for certain monsters and critters. Birds, Bears, Wolves, Energy Vortex's off the top of my head, can reveal you if you take a step 1 tile away from them.

I've never heard of ghosts being able to see hidden people or track them. Sounds suspicious to me.

*raises eyebrow*

yah, I cant imagine a ghost magically gets to see hidden people. That would be a serious problem in my opinion. I would venture to say that people have stealthers that check out spawns and maybe see people popping in and out of visibility before I believe that ghosts can see em..

When I was there I did not unhide or pop up or anything I was alone for a good 30 min before anyone came (I knowI have no life), so I am assuming that they were running a script. Damn scriptors....punkbuster where are you. There is so much too steal....

did they bring back thives?? i know when tremmal came thives were pretty much dead did they bring back uses for them now ???