*ponders*

GM'ing a skill is not usefull ?

Vepl

As far as the meta game is concerned, GM'ing a skill with no benefit is waste. ergeo
Did you get any recipes? Not for carpentry specifically, or tinker.

Did you get any money? No, it ALWAYS costs more to GM than the finished product sells fo.

Did you lose $10.00 out of YOUR pocket, on top of monthly subscription, to click 100K times? yes.

Can you make money with that skill alone? NO. You have to have 1) bods, 2) materialsto fill the bods 3) runics 4) magic items worth enahncing, with... more materials.
with thhe exception of siege and mugen, a GM crafter (exception scribe and alchemist) is useless without even MORE ancillary costs. Good for outfitting new players, but not a cash generating venture.

You are always picking on me tony!

This is where I have to say....

Is this a game, or a job?

You are playing a game, regardless of what you do and what it costs. It's a game.

IF you choose to do something that will break your mouse and make you have to buy a new one, it was your choice. You could have done whatever else to "generate cash" that did not involve breaking your mouse.

In the end, throw that $10 in with the cost of your enjoyment you get from playing. If you didn't get enjoyment, sorry, once again, it's a choice you get to make.

Well... Tbh I think most macros today are "fair". The crafting skills aren't very creative to raise.

The point really is the last lines. TBH, I fully agree with the "cost of entertainment", and it is CHEAP entertainement at that.

I was doing my FAQ on carpentry at the time of this post, which is when I realized quite a few things (connect the dots), which I DID supply to UOfeedback.
1) Smithing, archery, and tailoring can be raised WHILE completing heartwood quests. I LIKE this.

2) Carpentry, tinkering, alchemy, inscription, CANNOT be raised while completing heartwood quests. This is part of the "get to GM with no reward" observation

3) Off topic, but I realized something I felt was significant. All previous expansions (Before UO:ML) have done SOMETHING to enhance PvP AND PvM. Maybe all it did was change balance, but it freshened the PvP aspect with adjustments in templates and gear.

For two years, since ML, this has not happened. PvP'ers did not even change race, since humans remained PvP oriented. Spell weaving did not really do much to change PvP, more of a burp. Interesting to me.

LMAO is it me or was the first few replies about help with a template next 100 bickering about macros boring money and broken mouses think its safe to say u coverd this entire sights forums in 1 thread lmao just messing with yall HAHA

heck, nutting better to do. Seriously, and back on topic, did you get what you were looking for?
I also posted new archery and carpentry guides in the crafter skill forum.