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Old 08-05-2008, 12:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Angry Classic Server... Why the heck not?

First, check out www.camelotherald.com.

EAMythic has already released one version of a "Classic" server for Dark Age of Camelot and are now polling the community about releasing yet another version of a "Classic" server for DAoC...

Why are they so against releasing a classic UO shard? It makes even less sense to me when they are doing it for another of their games and yet ignore all the pleas for the same thing here.

I'm not asking them to close or change any current shards... so those who are against the "Classic" idea can just ignore it and continue to play on their own shards as usual. No big deal.

But I find it irritating that some of us have been asking for a classic shard for as long as DAoC has been around and they may get 2 different versions of classic servers while we continue to get nil.

Anyways, hope UOForums doesn't have the same "no discussion" policy that Stratics does regarding the classic shard issue... I just needed to vent about this.
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Classic Server... Why the heck not?

check out this thread for a variety of reasons: Pre-AoS or Pre-UOR shard.
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Classic Server... Why the heck not?

We don't mind discussion on the issue, as long as no freeshards are linked to or named.

I agree it'd be worth their time, but they keep making excuses as to why it hasn't been done, like

1) It'd take as much time to do as it took UOKR
2) We don't have the data for the systems back then

If freeshards can do it, then I'm SURE, EA could
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Re: Classic Server... Why the heck not?

It is rather silly, i think the argument is that they dont have the code to duplicate any previous eras? Why not have a quick look at some of the freeshards out there (clue: none of them are perfect, so you would need to do some extra work), perhaps have a month long focus group and bobs your uncle. Run it in tandem with current UO, bit of marketing - surely lots of people would come back? From a PvP perspective, i would play any of these eras almost 24/7:

1. Pre UO:R hally mage with or *without* precast
2. Post UO:R Mindblast
3. Archery harm mage, just post of AOS

But this is the tricky bit, surely current UO is better for the non PvP player? There is certainly more to do. Its an interesting topic.
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Re: Classic Server... Why the heck not?

Regarding Pre-AoS or Pre-UO:R? They could put a poll up on UO Herald. I would think as long as the shard is at *least* Pre-AoS, they would get an influx of players.

I'm also not buying the "It would be too hard" argument.

Adam, thanks for being understanding about "Classic Shard" discussions.
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Old 08-05-2008, 12:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Classic Server... Why the heck not?

I'd be in favour of a hybrid type shard, with the best parts of AOS (....trying to think of some....er......oh yea, custom housing ) mixed with the simplicity and fun of pre aos.

But yea, as Rorschach said, if they don't have data from "back then", they need only look at the coding from a certain shard emulation software, they've done a pretty good job from what I know.
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Re: Classic Server... Why the heck not?

I think in the end most people would rather have a hybrid shard, but that could get pretty hairy trying to include parts of different eras and making them balance out.

In a nutshell, I think the main things people want are:
1) No Tram/Fel
2) No AOS era stats
3) No Insurance/Blessings

That's a huge generalization obviously, but I think as long as they released a shard that met those criteria, it would qualify as "Classic" and would pull a lot of people back into the game.
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Re: Classic Server... Why the heck not?

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Old 08-05-2008, 12:57 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Classic Server... Why the heck not?

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I think in the end most people would rather have a hybrid shard, but that could get pretty hairy trying to include parts of different eras and making them balance out.

In a nutshell, I think the main things people want are:
1) No Tram/Fel
2) No AOS era stats
3) No Insurance/Blessings

That's a huge generalization obviously, but I think as long as they released a shard that met those criteria, it would qualify as "Classic" and would pull a lot of people back into the game.
So except for number 2, you have Siege Perilous...la
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Re: Classic Server... Why the heck not?

This is such a long and tired debate. I'd love to reference a post I did on stratics about it, but their forums are still taking a nap.

In the end, its a romantic, "Grass is greener" sort of idea... but I feel like 99% of the folks who ask for this sort of thing, or dream about it (including myself) would be highly dissapointed once they finally got their wish.
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Re: Classic Server... Why the heck not?

And yet, nobody has suggesting forcing anyone to play this classic shard. If you wouldn't be interested, you wouldn't have to log into it. WTF do you feel this is important enough to rain on everyone elses parade?

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Re: Classic Server... Why the heck not?

From memory, the most popular free shard is a pre UOR? one, I forget what era it's set in, so clearly there's a demand for that type of ruleset.
But, I'd imagine it'd be a technical nightmare trying to create one from scratch using the ancient server code the present official UO uses
Not mention linking it to the housing and veteran reward server(s)
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