I think Minotaur 2K hit it on the head - if a pre-ren is looked at - there would definatley be a lot of technical issues to overcome.

Seems to me that there is and has been a lot of players intersted in a Pre-Ren shard ruleset. I guess you could say its the business of seeing a need for something, and supplying it to the people. However - the logiistics of it are complex - otherwise - if it was easy -you can bet they'd have already Tapped that audience and revenue by now right? lol. You bet.

I'm just musing that it might be a good idea after the newly assembled Dev force has finished with all current projects - they might be able to turn their focus on something like a 'classic' shard of some kind. This is the kind of stuff the producer has to weigh in the end and balance all considerations.

If you think of it as a miner - its like -ok - there's a vein of gold down there. How big - hard to tell, but we know it's there. Can we safely get to it from here when we are done with this current dig? If so, will it be done in a timely manner, be successful and profiitable when we finish all of these new tunnels?

So anyway - In short - I was just musing on the feasablility with a few folks on some topics of conversation. Right now i know there aren't any real plans moving forward on anything like this. Just saying there ought to be - more consideration for it. Heh so don't go running around saying "Yay - he said we're gonna get one" LOL - cause that would be pretty far off the mark, and then you'd incour my fuzzy wrath. :grin: :grin: :grin:

CatHat

Great analogies CatHat.. but since Siege Perilous was was put up first.. fix the problems there. We're already ignored enough as it is.. don't slap the "Veteran Shard" in the face by creating another one by investing developer time and resources as well as support staff without backing it up by telling those who live there that "you got what you got.. live with our mistakes.. we're moving on".

If I am not mistaken Seige was to me what it looks like, a mix between AoS and pre AoS. With the certain properties of a pre AoS shard, but still with some AoS attributes. I was very confused about seige when I logged on first, which is why I only stayed for one character completion. I would like a Pre AoS shard, and if not, then an AoS up to date shard. Not something in the middle.

But right now, Seige is the closest thing we've got. And I think before any more development shard wide, they should focus on Seige just a little bit. Then if possible have a pre AoS shard.

We would have

• Pre AoS (The Beginning)
• The Middle Age (Seige)
• And the Future (All others that are updated to todays date)

Cobra.. pre AOS wasn't the beginning ;)

I personally would prefer a uo:r version... yeah I know throw your stones at me later... but if they left UO the way it was pre UO:R I wouldn't still be playing, sorry.

I know its not the beginning, but you know, I said that because we dont have a "set" time on how far back to go. All I know is its Pre AoS.

Seem fair?

I see your points Cobra, but pre:AoS, I don't think, would be far enough. Rennisance was the era that alot of people got upset about because the issue of Trammel. Pre:ren would be the best classic era I feel. You still get all the pre:AoS stuff plus no trammel.

Now technical issues such as... the reversal of time? Heh, that could get fuzzy. I was thinking about this yesterday, and it could get hairy. If there was a pre:ren server issued, they would have to not move with the other OSI shards. For instance, if we were to go back to a pre:ren server on OSI, there could not be any OSI, global, events for the pre:ren server, so some additional techincal difficulties would be assumed. Such as... if there was an event to open a new Fairy Land (fairys are next, after elfs, then roleplaying wisps) it couldn't be possible on the pre:ren server. I guess what im saying is, that it would be hard to differentiate on the OSI serverlisting the pre:ren server from the others.

And I'm new to the forums as most of you can see - is CatHat someone from EA?

Yup.. Developer... Graphics guy... and a really fun guy.

Ah ok. Good to see people from EA are reading my posts.

Yup and cats are always right.
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*goes back to his cat dish which is filled with fruit loops and milk*

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M e o w...

DID YOU CENSORE MY MEOWING AGAIN F'NOR!
lol(he did that to me on our guild pages long ago)

I can't imagine why

As for pre ren shards, as i've said before, it'd be nice to have a choice, but i'm 99.99% sure it isn't as simple as rigging up a standard windows machine and running a third part emulator.

It'd have to run with their current server setup
I have no idea what servers or operating systems they use, but i'll bet it isn't windows 2003!
Plus any shard they did setup, would have to integrate with their housing database/veteran rewards server to.