No matter how it may seem, I mean no disrespect here. All you will see is frustration at something totally idiotic (my opinion).

I do not own YOUR client nor can I be responsible for its stability. THAT IS YOUR DOMAIN.

The BEEF:

A Tamer and his Pet are engaging a Mob. The Tamer is Veting the Pet.

YOUR client crash's. The pet either becomes virtualy (it is really still there) invisible to the MoB and the tamer is the ONLY target the mob can see OR the pet is Virtualy sent to the Stables BUT NOT REALLY although it is NOT present.

The TAMER is not in control of diddly squat at this time because YOUR client crashed.. So the Tamer DIES.

IF the pet is still present than apparently the MOB can see the PET AFTER the Tamer is dead. In this case IF the mob vs pet is really depending on the Tamer veting then the Pet WILL BE DEAD by the time the Tamer can reload the client, get rez'd and to the pet.

IF the pet is NOT present (as in the stables) the Tamer CAN NOT summon anything (in the case of a 5 slot pet such as a greater dragon) even though when the tamer goes to a stable the pet is really in the stable.

SOLUTION: Get the client stable

SOLUTION: Don't do this Link Dead thing HALF A.... well DO IT RIGHT. If your going to do a Link Dead procedure, then set BOTH the tamer and the pet invulnerable OR send BOTH to a safe place.

Yeah I get that in the BAD OLD days people would disconnect their modem to avoid dieing, but with cable/dsl I doubt there are that many modem people out there. Of that group I doubt that many would use that exploit.

Thing is.. to disconnect yourself doesnt mean you need to reset your cable modem/dsl or whatever.. just alt f4... which will lead to exploits if people get in trouble.. The solution they got now is one of the better.. The 2d client is stable imo .. i havnt crashed in years before i quit.. If you crash on 2d client its more or less your computer that is unstable.

If you use KR... I wont really say more

and yes crashes happens in all games... people die.. But hey.. you got 100% life insurance in uo.. how more fluffy can it get?

Have to agree with Gnomy, I don't suffer from crashes anymore, I do remember the bad old days when crashing was hourly, if not ever 10 mins

Anyone else remember if people typed in the same character until they couldnt fit anymore in, it would appear with a foreign character at the end causing a client crash. LOL

Ok, the computer is stable period. It has a record uptime of 49days+ change.

Everquest would run for 72 hours plus with out a Client Crash.
in the last 2.5 years the only resets on either computer have been at Microsoft's insistence.

The instability is NOT within this computer. I can crash the client at will by switching from windowed mode to full screen AND get the bonus of crashing other STABLE programs because UO Client INSIST on perform a God awful number of device resets on everything it can touch.

Because you have been trained in a Pavlovian manner to avoid Client Crash's does NOT prove the client is stable.

AND in the end YOU and others can make the ISSUE all about the person, I get that, it is far easier to make it about the PERSON than it is to deal with a system issue.

I accept YOUR view that KILLING the paying customers player because of a Client crash is preferable to constructing a system to avoid such .... view of insuring that YOU make it as absolutely difficult as YOU can for the paying customer, to focus of frustrating them as absolutely much as you can, to anger them as absolutely much as YOU can, to alienate them as absolutely much as YOU can.

I accept you are ... such an expert that you can make judgments about MY computer system that YOU know absolutely nothing of let alone know absolutely nothing of me OR is short I accept your intent to blame ME for all the problems that is UO. I really do get your motive.

Despite YOUR intent to blame PEOPLE the issue is and will remain the choice, the decision to KILL the paying customers character on a client Crash, an ISP's bounce of the IP address, the ISP's server going down, a Router going down, a Router in house to UO going down any one of a hundred different ways that YOU OBVIOUSLY never encounter to become disconnected from the internet/UO.

MY position is going to be to keep the character and pets alive and suffer the few that would exploit the choice.

I think that was a *little* uncalled for...

What is uncalled for is to blame something you know absolutely nothing of. As in 100% clueless. All the while ignoring the core issue.

That is what is uncalled for.

The core issue? The one where two people have come up, and quite calmly and politley pointed out that they are not having issues, to which you have replied in a rather angry tone with rather accusational rhetoric?

Are you a software programmer, games developer, in the employ of EAMythic? No. Then you have no right under your own logic to blame them. In otherwords, followin that logical path, the problem is does not exist.

All I am asking is that you approach this in a calm fashion, I know this is highly frustrating whether it is a problem on your end or on EA's.

Maybe I am missing something here but I didn't think any one was attacking you or your computer. This is my friendly reminder for everyone to keep things civil.

An assertion of factualy knowing the problem is within my computer system which obviously the poster is 100% clueless of.

Regardless the issue is clearly about the choice to KILL the character of a paying customer over events beyond the control of said customer and NEITHER of the posters limiting themselves to the issue.

Rather deliberately focusing on the problem being with the posters computer, as in makeing a deliberate choice focus the issue on the posters computer being the sole fault.

When in FACT the Core Issue can be traced back to 100's of ways a paying customer can become disconnected from their character and transcends any petty attempt to derail/focus the issue on a persons computer being the blame/fault of all UO problems.

One either chooses to focus on the issue or one choose to make the focus a White Noise psycho-babble. Obviously the 2 posters chose to NOT discuss the issue rather raise techno babble White Noise about something they are 100% clueless of.

Lets try this as a LEGITIMATE poster would post, "I have not had a Client Crash in years and have no clue why your experiencing them. My opinion of the Core Issue is as follows ..."

VS

"EA/Mythic has made the best possible choice and the problem is with your computer being unstable so it is all your fault."

The intent could NOT be more clear.

In short wouldn't it be more appropriate for them to keep their 2 bit techno babble about someone (by proxy) out of the thread and focus strictly on the stated core issue?

Enigma, I believe Gnomy was making a general statement. No one is attacking you, your opinions or your computer, they just offered their suggestions. Their posts weren't what you were looking for that is fine. But instead of going off about their posts you could of just said, no i don't think that is my problem, what else do you guys think.