Piffle...

KMK used to beat LB regularly... granted we got beaten by LB regularly as well - at their best, some 5 years ago, LB and KMK were pretty well matched. :p

... mind, there used to be quite a few ppl in both guilds at the same time so I guess it's not that surprising.

im with thaur, we should all stand as one like LB used too and get our x healing perfect. and then as he said let the mages and archers take people, form a cluster effect with mages and archers in the centre and warriors on the perimeter. warriors healing and as they get close crushing blow etc whilst mages explo f strike. im not too sure on calling targets, maybe a have a mage on target calling duty bu cursing a target, when u see the red curse flashy thing hit, you know who too attack...

What do we do about mortals?

Enchanted apples. And combined arms didn't win WWI. Hmpf. But yes...to the point even though Baraz the Inept told me not to speak. X-healing saves sooo many lives when done right. In battles I always try and remain close to Thaur as he is by far one of the best x-healers in Core and know that he got my back. The way I see it, if Vesper stayed in one tight !!! formation, with warriors xhealing, WHILE hitting, but remained mostly focused on xhealing, then Vesperian firepower would be invincible. Mages disarm (those that can) target calling only for the initial first VITAL targets, and voila, easy butcher. Vesper easily has probably the best individual pvpers around in Core, but we truly suck at fighting as one big team. And that's probably why we resort to running about like headless chickens trying to do the most damage that way, but that doesn't really win against other groups of fighters that actually stay in formation and xheal.

although i hate him and yes i did tell him not to speak, the crazy dane has a point! thaur is a great x healer and enchanted apples are half the answer to your question ned. the other half is remove curse by our paladins. they always need be ready with that. if everyones happy, i think we should take this IC now. work on a formations with warriors on the perimeter x healing, and mages and archers getting targets and wiping them out, defo disarming. anyone that comes close, warriors knock them for 6!!!


I realise that this is extremely basic, but its what i picture in our head of our formation to be, this will work when attacking and defending. as long as we get the warriors to x heal well, and the archers of course.

The enemy infront would have to come to us as they wouldnt be able to drop us if we x healed well once our mages and archers were in range...

Don't get your hopes up, an imminent PvP fix is throwing a 20-30 second timer on apples. The single best defence against not dying to a mortal gank is running from it until your able to be healed by one of our mages.

Im all for the box formation.

Warriors in front. Mages in the middle. Archers behind.

Warriors disarm and heal mages & archers.
Mages go total damage.
Archers pick off the stragglers with mortal & double strike. Also most archers are Chiv users as well, so they must be trained to use Remove Curse (taht works for mortals right)?

Mages & Archers use "Target Nearest Mobile" macro. If someone is mortalled, they break ranks, and run in a circular motion around our block, until they are cursed.

No one breaks ranks!

Its a shame the Fel rule doesn't apply because their army is just gonna run thru our people to get to our mages

Yeah and they have to run through a wall of axes to get there, and our warriors will cut em to shreds!

Formations are pointless, stop playing so much Medieval Total War.

We're good at running around at the moment, we just need to keep running but STAY IN HEALING RANGE. I can pull a warrior out of a bad situation with a single greater heal, turning them from the chased into a chaser, I just need people to stay in range when they're running.

Mages are kind of wasted as healers, however. People don't pay enough attention to their own healing demands in a big battle... I can usually pick a target and combo them to death, providing they don't run. It's swings and round-abouts. If we were all mages however... we could have dedicated healers without losing our punch.