well I beleive my icq is in my profile if u have icq u can get ahold of me that way

I'm in love with Hythloth myself, also an ex-Shame addict, elder gazer bridge and gazer rooms. But I can never resist those blood elementals deep inside Wind Park!

Not exactly beginner stuff. But yes, all fun.

http://tukaram.net/melee.htm

Here is a list I use for training my guys. It is not real updated with newer critters but most of the new ones are a bit tough for training anyway. The critters listed still work very well.

Once you get to the 80's in skill I suggest the Solen Infiltrators (Matriarch Quest) you can go from the mid 80's to 110 in all your mele skills, Weapon, Anatomy, Tactics, Parry. The gold you get from the gems is very good as well. I sell the translocation powder too. Great quest, good loot, good skill gain.

Thank you very much. Looking it over before I log in tonight.

Desise rules for training. Shame is also good, I go to both when working my char's skills.

As for nornal monsters hunting, I happen to like ice orger Lords, and often chase the Lone Ice Orger Lord in ICE with Vixen, my archer/mage. It a game of tag as he and I dance about, him trying to hit me, me shooting and casting spells. I normally walk out of there with 10k before I call it a day of orger fighting.

Another thing about the Ice Orger that we like, as I am playing tag with it, THB members can training LP on the chests that spawn there, since the guardian is chasing me they can go for the chests without fear.