Talisman override weapon?

**Ezekiel** · 12th March 2007, 11:34 AM

Hmmmmmm, I may just have a little task for after work tonight...

**DiP** · 12th March 2007, 12:09 PM

Make sure when your testing your not already up against the DI cap for skills/spells. Else it won't be accurate.

What I mean is, with 1 slayer weapon I hit close enough to max damage that with a 2nd slayer I would see no difference.

**Ezekiel** · 12th March 2007, 02:37 PM

Ill take off my DI jewels and try it on a Bull with dbl Bovine. If it doesnt have enough hits, Ill see if I have a Fire Elle slayer and pair that with a Flame Slayer...

buddy lee · 12th March 2007, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ezekiel

Ill take off my DI jewels and try it on a Bull with dbl Bovine. If it doesnt have enough hits, Ill see if I have a Fire Elle slayer and pair that with a Flame Slayer...

let us know what the results are

Nevaeh · 12th March 2007, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddy lee

let us know what the results are

**Ezekiel** · 13th March 2007, 12:19 AM

OK, the results are in....kinda.

I didnt have a Bovine Slayer Talisman, so I used a Vermin Slayer Talisman and a Nights Kiss against Ratmen that were wandering around the Compassion gate in Ilsh.

I had no Di Jewels on and I have 110 Tactics and 110 Anat with 105 Str

Normal Dagger no Tali---17-22 This seemed to hold strong.
Normal Dagger with Talisman--34-45 Again, seemed strong.
Nights Kiss with Talisman--51-84 Results were pretty varied as you can see.

Maybe I should go back and use Consecrate Weapon?

*brb*

Yeha, the nubers increased by a small margin but remained much more constant...I mustve just been dealing with a resist issue.

I didnt have a Bovine Slayer Talisman, so I used a Vermin Slayer Talisman and a Nights Kiss against Ratmen that were wandering around the Compassion gate in Ilsh.

I had no Di Jewels on and I have 110 Tactics and 110 Anat with 105 Str

With Consecrate Weapon active

Normal Dagger no Tali---25-32
Normal Dagger with Talisman--50-55
Nights Kiss with Talisman--80-97

So yup, they stack!

**DiP** · 13th March 2007, 09:51 AM

Nice

**Ezekiel** · 13th March 2007, 10:18 AM

I should also add that the the Nights Kiss has 35% Di on it and Im guessing the Slayer Bonus is applied before DI which is why the numbers dont track to exact multiples of 2.

One thing I dont understand and I may make a post on U.Hall to attempt to elicit a Dev response is the 300% damage increase cap.

If you take a normal dagger, the base damage is 10-11 so shouldnt you not be able to hit for more than 40-44 when all is said and done? That is a 300% increase...

**kitiara** · 13th March 2007, 10:18 AM

Sweet! Thanks for the research, Ezekiel!

**bendavho** · 13th March 2007, 10:29 AM

Great research Ezekiel!!

12th March 2007, 11:34 AM	#11
Ezekiel Wycorp--Dwarf Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Shard: Area 52 Posts: 2,504 Gold: 79 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Talisman override weapon? Hmmmmmm, I may just have a little task for after work tonight...

12th March 2007, 12:09 PM	#12
DiP Ronin<br>UOForums Bouncer Join Date: Jan 2006 Shard: Black Water Raiders, Azeroth Posts: 9,261 Gold: 35,201 My Mood: Thanks: 115 Thanked 79 Times in 67 Posts	Re: Talisman override weapon? Make sure when your testing your not already up against the DI cap for skills/spells. Else it won't be accurate. What I mean is, with 1 slayer weapon I hit close enough to max damage that with a 2nd slayer I would see no difference. Thanks again Maddux! Adri: women don't discuss men while in the bathroom, we sacrifice small animals and smoke tampons rolls eyes

12th March 2007, 02:37 PM	#13
Ezekiel Wycorp--Dwarf Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Shard: Area 52 Posts: 2,504 Gold: 79 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Talisman override weapon? Ill take off my DI jewels and try it on a Bull with dbl Bovine. If it doesnt have enough hits, Ill see if I have a Fire Elle slayer and pair that with a Flame Slayer...

13th March 2007, 12:19 AM	#16
Ezekiel Wycorp--Dwarf Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Shard: Area 52 Posts: 2,504 Gold: 79 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Talisman override weapon? OK, the results are in....kinda. I didnt have a Bovine Slayer Talisman, so I used a Vermin Slayer Talisman and a Nights Kiss against Ratmen that were wandering around the Compassion gate in Ilsh. I had no Di Jewels on and I have 110 Tactics and 110 Anat with 105 Str Normal Dagger no Tali---17-22 This seemed to hold strong. Normal Dagger with Talisman--34-45 Again, seemed strong. Nights Kiss with Talisman--51-84 Results were pretty varied as you can see. Maybe I should go back and use Consecrate Weapon? brb Yeha, the nubers increased by a small margin but remained much more constant...I mustve just been dealing with a resist issue. I didnt have a Bovine Slayer Talisman, so I used a Vermin Slayer Talisman and a Nights Kiss against Ratmen that were wandering around the Compassion gate in Ilsh. I had no Di Jewels on and I have 110 Tactics and 110 Anat with 105 Str With Consecrate Weapon active Normal Dagger no Tali---25-32 Normal Dagger with Talisman--50-55 Nights Kiss with Talisman--80-97 So yup, they stack!

13th March 2007, 09:51 AM	#17
DiP Ronin<br>UOForums Bouncer Join Date: Jan 2006 Shard: Black Water Raiders, Azeroth Posts: 9,261 Gold: 35,201 My Mood: Thanks: 115 Thanked 79 Times in 67 Posts	Re: Talisman override weapon? Nice Thanks again Maddux! Adri: women don't discuss men while in the bathroom, we sacrifice small animals and smoke tampons rolls eyes

13th March 2007, 10:18 AM	#18
Ezekiel Wycorp--Dwarf Hunter Join Date: Jul 2005 Shard: Area 52 Posts: 2,504 Gold: 79 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Talisman override weapon? I should also add that the the Nights Kiss has 35% Di on it and Im guessing the Slayer Bonus is applied before DI which is why the numbers dont track to exact multiples of 2. One thing I dont understand and I may make a post on U.Hall to attempt to elicit a Dev response is the 300% damage increase cap. If you take a normal dagger, the base damage is 10-11 so shouldnt you not be able to hit for more than 40-44 when all is said and done? That is a 300% increase...

13th March 2007, 10:18 AM	#19
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13th March 2007, 10:29 AM	#20
bendavho Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Shard: Lake Austin Posts: 3,564 Gold: 89 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Talisman override weapon? Great research Ezekiel!!

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