My mule got her title off handing in barbed runic bods, but when she loses it, i just get a friend to party me, and then he goes off an kills ice fiends fixes it up real fast

FYI fiends have the same fame as succubus for you ally i think it was

slayerbooks do not work with evs.... lol i was doing 71 to arctic oger lords with fireball and my ev was only doing like 20 somein and fire elys die too fast ..... and take up to meny slots now grrrrr

Fame will decay with time as well as if you die... Karma dont decay with time and will stick with you depending on if you kill good karma creatures or poisioning things etc.
Ally stated
"What should I be killing to get Lady? I got my smith to Lady, but I can't seem to get my archer the title" .....
You also have to be sure that your karma is not locked!!! go to an ank like you are tithing gold for chilvry, the ank has a tab to toggle your karma lock.
the BODs will give you fame but I dont think you get any karma off of them.

Woo they finnaly put in a Karma toggle Thank the gods. Now I don't have to look for that list of crazy words to unlike your karma at certain shrines. Thanks for the info.

Ok people tonight and tonight only I will get you all LORD/LADY and all you will have to do is STAY PUT where I tell you to...You won't have to do ANYTHING at all...Would be easier if at leat one person in the group could invis the others unless they have hiding...

And Ally if your the Ally I know from the Gauntlet, there's no excuse for you not having LAdy...LOL

Anyone with 2 accounts can do this too, way easy...Just party up and go to the same dungeon and hide the one that you want the fame on and hunt with the other to easy...

Prolly easier and faster if I take 1 crafter at a time...PM me if you would like to do this...

Hi Twinkie. Nope I'm not the Ally you're thinking of. I'm in Atlantic right now. But I'm gonna use the ideas here and party up my crafter when we go hunting

I was bored one day while the Treasures of Tokuno were going on while on my theif/stealther in the fan dancer dojo. He has 80 magery natrually, but uses a magery boost magebook and mage jewlery to get to gm magery. I scribed him a few summon daemon scrolls and got him to where the single daemon spawns on the end of the second level of the dojo and wanted to see how a summon daemon would do vs a wild daemon. Guess what, I didn't even have to heal the blasted thing once.... till it times out. I got my theif to Glorious Lord in about an hour and a half or so, but mind you this is my theif that kills almost nothing and had very very neg karma due to having stealing and necro on him. So, if you have Decent magery (60+) and can find a spellbook and some jewlery to get to at least 80 magery and know of anywhere you can get Summon Daemon scrolls, head to a slow daemon spawn like that in fire dungon lower level and camp away. The wild demons will not dispell (or at least didn't for me the many times I have gone back on other charactors) and by the time the daemon you summoned times out, even without med or focus you shoudl have enough mana to cast another one. Only tricky part is knowing about when your summon will time out. And of course, having a peacer makes it go faster and helps with the transition of making your new one. Fel Wind woudl be faster for gains of karma/fame if it is worth it for you, but is it worth the risk on a crafter?
Another thing to point out is that ANYONE with UOSE or higher on their accounts can control a lesser hiryu. Lessers can deal a decent amount of damage but obviously are not immortal. Hope this helps you get enough fame that it will not mater if it decays only a little bit. Dieing though is suposed to drop your fame level by 10%