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Old 7th May 2008, 03:36 PM   #1
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Invite to a new Focus group posted on UOHerald by Jeremy!

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Re: Invite to a new Focus group invite posted on UOHerald by Jeremy!

Don't hold your breath - invites won't go out til tomorrow at least, and won't be finished until Monday at the earliest. (It's an exceedingly annoying and time-consuming manual process to set someone up on the internal forums)
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Re: Invite to a new Focus group invite posted on UOHerald by Jeremy!

Heh thanks for the heads up
Posted as news - Focus Group: The Council of War
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Re: Invite to a new Focus group invite posted on UOHerald by Jeremy!

Woohooo, answered by a deity! *can cross fingers in my sleep*
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Re: Invite to a new Focus group invite posted on UOHerald by Jeremy!

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Don't hold your breath - invites won't go out til tomorrow at least, and won't be finished until Monday at the earliest. (It's an exceedingly annoying and time-consuming manual process to set someone up on the internal forums)
I won't ever participate in another focus group that Jeremy puts together. The PvP focus group was handled unprofessionally and I won't offer my help again.

I'm sorry to be negative. It is one thing to ignore posters on a message board. It is quite another to invite people to participate in a process then unceremoniously dump them and subsequently fail to communicate any reason for doing so.

Good luck to anyone who applies. You won't be getting my considerable experience on this one or any others.
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Re: Invite to a new Focus group invite posted on UOHerald by Jeremy!

I'm sorry you got caught in that, but at that scale, it's the only way to enforce an NDA.
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Old 7th May 2008, 04:26 PM   #7
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Re: Invite to a new Focus group invite posted on UOHerald by Jeremy!

There's a story here, and faithful UO subscribers demand to know!

*waits patiently*

Oh yeah - and Jeremy, are you ignoring my list of 30+ questions I sent in for FoF, or have you just not seen them yet (3 weeks ago)?

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Re: Invite to a new Focus group invite posted on UOHerald by Jeremy!

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I'm sorry you got caught in that, but at that scale, it's the only way to enforce an NDA.
Enforcing the NDA is no excuse for failing to respond to multiple requests for clarification on the issue.

It would have been quite simple to send a mass email to everyone explaining the situation, you failed to do that.

In a semi-professional relationship like the one between a company and participants in a focus group, there is no justification for that.
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Re: Invite to a new Focus group invite posted on UOHerald by Jeremy!

My last post sounded much harsher than I intended, sorry. I was trying to be funny with the first part and was venting a bit with the second part, but I think it all comes across far meaner than I am!

Can't edit from work, sorry.

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Re: Invite to a new Focus group invite posted on UOHerald by Jeremy!

There was an announcement posted in the still-visible part at the time, if I recall.

Magister, the last couple of weeks have been nuts for the designers, what with the publish and the baby and all, so I haven't gotten any gameplay stuff answered in weeks. I should be able to get some soon, though.
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Re: Invite to a new Focus group invite posted on UOHerald by Jeremy!

I'm in management and this all sounds soooo familiar in so many ways. lol You can never make everyone happy. =P

We ask that the Dev's be more accessible and then we FS them as soon as they appear or post...
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Re: Invite to a new Focus group invite posted on UOHerald by Jeremy!

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There was an announcement posted in the still-visible part at the time, if I recall.

Magister, the last couple of weeks have been nuts for the designers, what with the publish and the baby and all, so I haven't gotten any gameplay stuff answered in weeks. I should be able to get some soon, though.
Yes, the announcement was that since some unidentified members of the focus group failed to abide by the NDA the group was dissolved and no one who was a part of the group could participate in the second attempt.

It was an adequate statement of what happened. It provided wholely insufficient explanation or apology to the vast majority of the group who did abide by the NDA and wanted to be involved in improving that long ignored aspect of the game.

The apology here is the first I've seen. You could have avoided my resentment by bothering to apologize and explain then. You could also have maintained this customer as someone who was willing to participate and help but your actions or lack thereof demonstrated that you don't want that from me. Your wish is granted.

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