JC not to beat a horse on this but are you #$%##%$% kidding me! UO is very alive? Have you even played in the last year? Dont believe the charts or what others are saying or just dont remember what UO was like just a year ago? Man open your eyes and you will see UO is far from very alive. As I said I hate this as much as anyone as I have spent many hours playing UO and put alot into it and wish it was very alive. This isnt meant to be an attack on you in any way and I agree wholeheartedly with you that "they" EA have screwed "us" the players yet again which seems to be their M.O. buy a very successful game/studio/company and then expect minimal substandard growth/content and sit back and milk it. I continued paying for my accts waiting eagerly for KR and SA to come out. KR ran like $^$& on my comp even the last time I tried and couldnt drop a friggin piece of rubble without logging into 2d and memory crash after just 3 mins of standing in my house. SA was just a slap in my face which they continue to do with no word on its death/progress. In fact I cancelled my accts with the lovely message we are very excited about UO's future and have some great things planned for you. Hmmm still waiting btw. I just cant justify paying every month to sit around doing BOD's for hours on end, sorting,collecting and deco'ing with no new real content (wooo the new Moonglow event, about on lvl with Magincia and that lasted what about a week or two). I agree with most that the only hope UO has is an expansion but that apparently has been scrapped! Nope UO is far from "very alive" and I cant see it coming outta this hole! Sorry for the flame!