War, I think we are probably saying the same thing in different ways. Don't think I am mad or anything about it, please. I agree, it is EAMythic at it's finest lol. I am VERY happy to hear you find new players. I make it a point to hit New Haven everyday and chat with [young] players. In the conversation, I try to find out if they are truly new or coming back to the game after an absence, or if they are experience players messing around with a new account. A truly new or returning char will get much the same treatment you gave the player you took on the dungeon tour. They will also very often find themselves well equipped with armor/weaps/spellbooks/runebooks and some gold when I'm done with them. I want them to be successful, and, as you stated, the learning curve here is very steep. Safe travels.