I die so much it ruins the game for me. Is there no way to change this? Here are some suggestions though i doubt ANY of you would agree.

1. wait 10 minutes to get back in a fight (i dislike this)
2. wait 20 minutes (much better than 10 IF the fight lasts long enough)
3. wait until everybody has returned to their base after a fight.

Hopefully some of you agree.

There are many ways to avoid death, changing the rules will not make you stay alive longer.

*nods to Raul*

If you dont like taking a dirt nap either dont fight or dont be in a fighting type guild, or spend a lot of time practising/learning how to stay alive as an individual and as a guild.

There is plenty of scope to role play being injured, getting healed chatting about your battle etc etc.

Why is being unable to fight for 30 minutes spoiling the game for you?

Omera is probably posting this in response to the recent threads /comments regarding Orcs,and therefore the above quote isnt really a solution for Orcs as it currently stands.

Its the same old story.

We moan there arent enough 'evils' and then when we get them ,we want to kill them asap,with little no ooc thought for the person playing the character..

I foresaw this problem, and mentioned it in another post some where.[ think it was the All GM forum.]

Its all well and good saying, Orcs shouldnt be allowed to

drink in taverns
go to market
walk into a town
etcetera,etcetera

but what opportunities are we leaving them .?

Are the rest of the Roleplay base,not even remotely responsible in some of this too ?

Thats the whole problem,though, as an Orc there isn't that same scope to roleplay most of us have..

If Orcs are going to be seen in game as the same as the Orcs from such films as LOTR etc,then should we not be seeing Drow and Vampires also that way.

We shouldnt be allowing one race [ ie Vierna's Drow and Tre's vamps,] to be conducting business and conversation in town's but not Orc's.

We cant be seen to be varying the level of 'fluffiness' for different races.

On the other hand ,though,why should Orcs,Drow and Vampires even be around in UO?

Well, for the same reason,we have people playing Elves,Deamons or any other 'form/race they take on .

We are either going along with the fantasy or we arent.We should not mix and match.

So whats the solution ?

Well first we need to pin down the problem.

Logg in,experience very little /no quality roleplay, get knocked ,spend 30 mins in a DR,repeatedly for the whole game session.


NOT fun.

My suggestion would be this.

Just as we now have a Knightly Alliance,so we should have a Dark Alliance.

I have said this before.

If the GM's of the guilds who are classed as evil/bad etc formed together I am sure Omera, your Orcs would feel less isolated,have more activities to be a valid part of ,ie Dark Alliancetraining,markets ,tavern nights etc.


B^F ,Tre and O-L have already teamed into an Alliance,my thoughts would be to speak to Alynora and Henry,and consider joining them as an option.

Raul will know exactly what I am saying,as he had this problem a few years back,when running the Crimson CLaw,just as much as I am sure Henry,Vierna and Aly have /had with their guilds.

In short

TALK to each other.

Form an alliance with each other.

Improve your game play experience with ....each other !!!!!!!!!!!


Good Luck Omera and your Orcs.

Changing the rules so people have less time to wait before they go back to the exact place they died and pick a fight with the exact person that killed them as i've seen people do many times? hah! If anything make the death time last longer!

well I would agree.I would make it 2 hrs

Tabbitha I have to disagree almost entirely and agree also

Evil Role play needs its own base of operations - like an Island of Outcasts where all the baddies can go hang together and role play - tavern nights, tournaments, markets, trading, walking into town etc etc

Evil role play needs a specific agreement ooc between gms.

Evil ROle play needs subtlty and not "in your face im a killing machine but dont you dare try and arrest me"

Evil role play needs GMs who have the time , imagination and enthusiasm to make it fun for their members.

A Tremere can conduct his/her business in town because s/he doenst wear a big sign shouting "I R EVIL MOFO VAMPMOFO HERE TO SUCK YR BLOOD".

A big fat smelly green skinned orc is another matter - especially if its been tryign to nibble on your leg for 3 days or mugged you 5 times in the last week

Evil role play needs to find guilds who dont want to just pwnzzor its members and not insta try and pwnnzzor them also.

It works both ways.

Also Tabbitha, vampires and drows who dont follow that spider queen {is it?} can be around humans without wanting to kill everyone in sight. Orcs on the other hand are chaotic evil and cannot be around anyone without wanting to behead them.

I agree partially with a lot of the above, but especially with the Dark Alliance part. Sacked Dreamstone last time round, I believe. If all the orcs, vampires and drow relocated to old Naeloth, it'd really, really good!

Grukthar, I feel your pain. When I was first introduced to the world of RPvP, I was utterly clueless and found myself getting killed a lot, spending most of the fights in deathrobe. However, shortening the timer is not the answer.

There are several ways of avoiding being killed, but having fought alongside you on several occasions, I think you're missing the most obvious one: Running. It is by far the most efficient way of staying alive longer. I do it a lot when outnumbered or faced by a clearly superior fighter. If you find you're being hit and taking a lot of damage, run for the hills!

We tried to rekindle the fires in Naeloth last year - sadly yet again everyone said "wow the idea rocks""

But no one turned up or tried to get involved or relocate.

It is now the perfect spot for a player run town as housing spaces are abundant.,

What? Felucca? What's that?