Music Skills Gaining Guide (Provoke/Discord)

genuine_fake · 19th March 2007, 05:27 PM

Since I love bards so much, I figured I would help all you who are looking for a gain guide out. Keep in mind it is best to train Music up to 100 (you can simply double click an instrument to train this up if you wish), then work on the other skills, due to the Music check that is performed before every bard attempt.

All bard skills gain depending on Bard difficulty, so this list should work for discord, provoke, and peacing. Use non-exceptional instruments. I always bought 20 at a time from the NPC carpenter. This is a list of non-magical, easy to manage pets to practice on:

Buy skill up to 30 using NPC
30-50 Polar Bears
50-60 Frenzied Ostards
60-70 Scorpions
70-80 Giant Beetles (Blue mountable ones)
80-85 Lesser Hiryus (try to get ones with high bard difficulty)
85-90ish Greater Hiryus

90s and up your only option is really Cu Sidhes if you want a non magical target. After GM it can get really slow. Try to get friends with trained Cu Sidhes to let you practice on their pets for a while. Remember that if you have a high chance of succeeding that you will not gain as easily, so sometimes it helps to drop your Musicianship a bit to make it harder to succeed. I would never drop it lower than 90, because you will get the message "You play poorly, and there is no effect" too often.

Good luck!

**Ally** · 19th March 2007, 05:31 PM

Thanks for the list.

What's the music check? I didn't know it was better to just lock music at GM then wait while working on other skills. I have 115 music now, and it's a pain gaining discord. I'm only at 70 right now. :/

**bendavho** · 19th March 2007, 05:38 PM

I have 120 music and only 111 discord and 109 provoke, I pretty much just do ggs, hehe. I should of lock my but I dont want to bring music down and train again, hehe

**Baldguy** · 19th March 2007, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bendavho

I have 120 music and only 111 discord and 109 provoke, I pretty much just do ggs, hehe. I should of lock my but I dont want to bring music down and train again, hehe

1) use slayer instruments that are NOT aligned to the type you are targetting to bring down success rate.

2) if you have another character with 100 music, play musical skills and swap out the 120 for the 100

3) train up music on a empty slot to 100 (take about 16 hours), then do #2

genuine_fake · 19th March 2007, 07:28 PM

I feel for you, Ally. Discord is quite a pain to raise. Baldguy made some excellent suggestions if you don't want to waste your 15 music points.

It just goes back to what I mentioned in the OP. Your success chance is based on your music, discord (or provoke or peace), and the instrument you are using. Since you have 115 Music, it makes it easier for you to succeed, therefore harder to gain. So really, if you practice on things with higher difficulty, then your 115 Music isn't a problem. I suggest you use the barding calculator on Stratics. Just plug in your skills and it will give you success rates for any monster you pick. You want your success rate to be somewhere between 40% and 60%. 115 Music may make it harder for you to gain at higher levels, but if you just adjust and train on the right creatures (my list probably isn't very accurate for you) then you'll gain normally, which is still too freaking slow.

**Ally** · 19th March 2007, 10:05 PM

Hehe ok I'll try and see what I can discord. I figured if I do GGS I should be done sometime by the end of the year

**bendavho** · 20th March 2007, 07:14 AM

I have been doing my training in fel destard I seem to be gaining pretty good off dragons, but I will not use unaligned slayer on them, hehe, there is just tooo many of them in fel destard.

buddy lee · 20th March 2007, 04:43 PM

every 2 points in music above 100 counts as 1 point in other bard skills. at 100 music, you will never fail the music check and that is why you should lock it at 100 till you get other skills where you want them. if they didn't do it that way, there would be no reason to use music powerscroll...

use slayers to gain for a while, then exceptional, then regular, then opposite slayer and you can gain for a long time off the same target

**Snugglebunny** · 27th May 2007, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by genuine_fake

Since I love bards so much, I figured I would help all you who are looking for a gain guide out. Keep in mind it is best to train Music up to 100 (you can simply double click an instrument to train this up if you wish), then work on the other skills, due to the Music check that is performed before every bard attempt.

All bard skills gain depending on Bard difficulty, so this list should work for discord, provoke, and peacing. Use non-exceptional instruments. I always bought 20 at a time from the NPC carpenter. This is a list of non-magical, easy to manage pets to practice on:

Buy skill up to 30 using NPC
30-50 Polar Bears
50-60 Frenzied Ostards
60-70 Scorpions
70-80 Giant Beetles (Blue mountable ones)
80-85 Lesser Hiryus (try to get ones with high bard difficulty)
85-90ish Greater Hiryus

90s and up your only option is really Cu Sidhes if you want a non magical target. After GM it can get really slow. Try to get friends with trained Cu Sidhes to let you practice on their pets for a while. Remember that if you have a high chance of succeeding that you will not gain as easily, so sometimes it helps to drop your Musicianship a bit to make it harder to succeed. I would never drop it lower than 90, because you will get the message "You play poorly, and there is no effect" too often.

Good luck!

I've never ran a bard template before. I hope I am understanding this correctly... Train music to 100. Then use the above animals to practice discord/peace/provy?

buddy lee · 27th May 2007, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snugglebug

I've never ran a bard template before. I hope I am understanding this correctly... Train music to 100. Then use the above animals to practice discord/peace/provy?

yes

**Snugglebunny** · 27th May 2007, 08:42 PM

Thank you Jedi Buddy.

DarksieD · 28th May 2007, 05:30 AM

thanks for the guide g_f

19th March 2007, 05:27 PM	#1
genuine_fake Join Date: Mar 2007 Shard: Chesapeake Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Music Skills Gaining Guide (Provoke/Discord) Since I love bards so much, I figured I would help all you who are looking for a gain guide out. Keep in mind it is best to train Music up to 100 (you can simply double click an instrument to train this up if you wish), then work on the other skills, due to the Music check that is performed before every bard attempt. All bard skills gain depending on Bard difficulty, so this list should work for discord, provoke, and peacing. Use non-exceptional instruments. I always bought 20 at a time from the NPC carpenter. This is a list of non-magical, easy to manage pets to practice on: Buy skill up to 30 using NPC 30-50 Polar Bears 50-60 Frenzied Ostards 60-70 Scorpions 70-80 Giant Beetles (Blue mountable ones) 80-85 Lesser Hiryus (try to get ones with high bard difficulty) 85-90ish Greater Hiryus 90s and up your only option is really Cu Sidhes if you want a non magical target. After GM it can get really slow. Try to get friends with trained Cu Sidhes to let you practice on their pets for a while. Remember that if you have a high chance of succeeding that you will not gain as easily, so sometimes it helps to drop your Musicianship a bit to make it harder to succeed. I would never drop it lower than 90, because you will get the message "You play poorly, and there is no effect" too often. Good luck!

19th March 2007, 05:38 PM	#3
bendavho Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Shard: Lake Austin Posts: 3,564 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Music Skills Gaining Guide I have 120 music and only 111 discord and 109 provoke, I pretty much just do ggs, hehe. I should of lock my but I dont want to bring music down and train again, hehe __________________

19th March 2007, 07:28 PM	#5
genuine_fake Join Date: Mar 2007 Shard: Chesapeake Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Music Skills Gaining Guide I feel for you, Ally. Discord is quite a pain to raise. Baldguy made some excellent suggestions if you don't want to waste your 15 music points. It just goes back to what I mentioned in the OP. Your success chance is based on your music, discord (or provoke or peace), and the instrument you are using. Since you have 115 Music, it makes it easier for you to succeed, therefore harder to gain. So really, if you practice on things with higher difficulty, then your 115 Music isn't a problem. I suggest you use the barding calculator on Stratics. Just plug in your skills and it will give you success rates for any monster you pick. You want your success rate to be somewhere between 40% and 60%. 115 Music may make it harder for you to gain at higher levels, but if you just adjust and train on the right creatures (my list probably isn't very accurate for you) then you'll gain normally, which is still too freaking slow.

19th March 2007, 10:05 PM	#6
Ally The Couch Hottie Join Date: Aug 2004 Shard: Lake Austin, Atlantic Posts: 4,371 Thanks: 12 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Music Skills Gaining Guide Hehe ok I'll try and see what I can discord. I figured if I do GGS I should be done sometime by the end of the year __________________

20th March 2007, 07:14 AM	#7
bendavho Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 2006 Shard: Lake Austin Posts: 3,564 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Music Skills Gaining Guide I have been doing my training in fel destard I seem to be gaining pretty good off dragons, but I will not use unaligned slayer on them, hehe, there is just tooo many of them in fel destard. __________________

19th March 2007, 05:31 PM	#2
Ally The Couch Hottie Join Date: Aug 2004 Shard: Lake Austin, Atlantic Posts: 4,371 Thanks: 12 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Music Skills Gaining Guide Thanks for the list. What's the music check? I didn't know it was better to just lock music at GM then wait while working on other skills. I have 115 music now, and it's a pain gaining discord. I'm only at 70 right now. :/ __________________

20th March 2007, 04:43 PM	#8
buddy lee Agent Zero Join Date: Oct 2006 Shard: Atlantic Posts: 1,756 Thanks: 10 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts	Re: Music Skills Gaining Guide every 2 points in music above 100 counts as 1 point in other bard skills. at 100 music, you will never fail the music check and that is why you should lock it at 100 till you get other skills where you want them. if they didn't do it that way, there would be no reason to use music powerscroll... use slayers to gain for a while, then exceptional, then regular, then opposite slayer and you can gain for a long time off the same target

27th May 2007, 08:42 PM	#11
Snugglebunny ♥Yr Mangled Heart♥ Join Date: Mar 2006 Shard: Black Water Raiders Posts: 8,468 Thanks: 125 Thanked 33 Times in 24 Posts	Re: Music Skills Gaining Guide Thank you Jedi Buddy. __________________ Sig courtsey of Nevaeh. He rawwwwks! AdamD: You made me cry tears of pink sadness and despair! "Two Minutes in Heaven is Better then One Minute in Heaven." I'm not wearing my business socks for nothing

28th May 2007, 05:30 AM	#12
DarksieD The old guy from Atlantic Join Date: Dec 2006 Shard: Atlantic/Lake Austin Posts: 814 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Music Skills Gaining Guide thanks for the guide g_f __________________

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