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Old 14th February 2007, 02:20 PM   #11
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Old 14th February 2007, 03:50 PM   #12
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Don't rely on pots. Also, Silver, your asking completely the wrong kibnd of people if your intending on using that template on Siege.

Don't rely on pots, in fact archers that chug are poo. I say that because balanced bows use one of their weapon extras slots to be balanced. Healing sucks, I've decided that the only way to heal is confidence for archers, helped with a chiv heal when you get far enough away. I can survive a 3 person gank with just confidence, knowing when to hit a chiv heal comes with experience.

I currently run:
120 Archery
100 Hiding
85 Stealth
120 Ninja
110 Bushido
Chiv 70
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lol god. I'd call you a complete moron, but that would probably be against the TOS so I won't.
Bush on a pvp archer???are you joking me.?!

#1 - you cannot use confidence when in dog form
#2 - only sissies use stealthing in pvp. Hiding is one thing...but stealthing around you can't keep up w/ the fight.
#3 - every archer be it pvm OR pvp should have healing/anat, and 140 dex+ for four second bandaids...

Let me ask ya this, with no pots, and no healing...how do you plan on curing poison?
I could see if you said chiv...but good luck doing that while stealthing around, nevermind the fact you cant use chiv in dog form, lol.
One LP from a dexie and u are done for on that char.
Even IF you are good enough to get out of form, cast a cleanse by fire, (then divine fury,) then get back into form or smokebomb/hide to escape a gank...and that is a very huge IF, I doubt you have enough fc/fcr to do that effectively anyhow (my guess is u run w/o any, lol).

Facts are as follows:

1-Stealthing archers need healing/anat
2-stealth archers SHOULD use balanced bows
3-stealth archers SHOULD try to work in atleast SOME fc/fcr to get in and out of form quicker...
4-no real reason for any chiv if set up right.

Look at it this way, on unsupportable's template, you will stealth around, try to dismount/kill people. Once you miss, and have 2 or more guys casting an expl fs on you, there must be some way to escape. This means going into wolf form, and runing.
How do you plan to cure/heal self once you are in wolf form is what it pretty much comes down to.
and in fact you will (if smart) BE IN wolf form 99% of the time anyhow, and only come out for opportune shots...onehit kills, dismounts, etc...

Not only do you need a way to heal when in form, but you also need a way to replenish stamina.
Sure you could use kirin form, but even at 120 ninja, the occasional fizzle will get ya killed eventually.
This means Total Refresh pots. Even if you do have chiv, you cannot cast divine in wolf form, and again...good luck getting out of form, casting divine for stam so strangle dont kill u, and back into form to escape the gank.
It simply is not gonna happen, and you will find yourself seeing a grey screen more ofthen than not (as unsupportable does no-doubt).

Take it from a 9-year pvp vet...
Use balanced bows
Get 140+ dex and use anat heal.
Carry pots (yellow, orange, RED, and even blue/white to help w/ higher stats)
Wear enhance pot 75% or better (this will also increase buff amount from blue/white pots!)
allways carry a trapped box (even if you have resist!)
Smokebombs are not a bad idea too...nor are apples, orange petals,and anything else that will help to keep you alive.

Now unsupportable is right on one thing...I don't play siege, and don't know waht the pvp scene there is like.
Maybee people dont gank as much, and you don't need all this stuff to survive...but on a main shard, if you plan on doing alot of pvp vs groups...and you want to stay alive....then this is the way to run w/ a ninja archer.
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Old 14th February 2007, 04:43 PM   #13
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Re: Opinion on Archer template

guy in my guild made a heavy w/

balanced
40 ssi
40+ di
15 HCI
FC 1

-that there is all ya really need...and you can get by w/o the casting even if running w/ the ep and red pots...
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Old 14th February 2007, 10:03 PM   #14
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Re: Opinion on Archer template

Actually this won't be for Siege, this is for LA and I really appreciate the input from all.

Remember to keep it civil

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Old 15th February 2007, 04:33 AM   #15
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Re: Opinion on Archer template

Well Cutter yet again makes himself out to be completely arrogant. Not being open to new views. I have stealth, so that I can do 80 Deathstrikes!!!!! Its quite simple really. Stealth upto someone, track them, mount up on ethy, wait a few minutes. If they move it doesn't matter. Then when they next come by, deathstrike, moving shot, dead. Or keep spamming moving shot.

So cutter, I don't intend to do anything but that with him, but chiv and confidence heals are good enough for me. And you can't apply bandies in stealth anyway. Nor drink pots. And all pot chuggers are scum............

So cutter don't run your mouth when you don't know. And any archer that gets close enough to a dexxy to get lp'd needs to give up PvP. Unless your fighting hackers, they won't catch you.

And the heavy you posted has very little use, even with 40ssi, its still too slow

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1-Stealthing archers need healing/anat
2-stealth archers SHOULD use balanced bows
3-stealth archers SHOULD try to work in atleast SOME fc/fcr to get in and out of form quicker...
4-no real reason for any chiv if set up right.
Where the hell does it say that it the UO rules????
Please let me know.
Cutter learn to have an open mind about templates that you know nothing about. Since you don't have a stealth tracking ninja archer.

And in the field in a guild fight all I intend doing is dismount with my heavy. SUPPORT ARCHER!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 15th February 2007, 12:00 PM   #16
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Unsupportable, that just makes too much sense, it can't work! [/sarcasm]

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...And all pot chuggers are scum............
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Althought it's always fun to kill a chugger.

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Old 16th February 2007, 10:07 AM   #17
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all I can say unsup. Is I will track you (or one of our support chars will) And even if I dont, the first time you pop out to shoot someone, im gonna be on u like flies on sh*t, and on you're setup you will be dead before you can blink.
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