Many moons ago when I first made a mage it was better to train your eval before your magery, I was just wondering if that remains true today and were I may find an updated skills guiide for magery/eval

Thanks:grin:

I never had to train my eval - it GM'd on its own while I trained magery. Not sure these days, as my last mage was trained years ago

When blackrock was up, I did train a mage to 107...and Eval Int went up with magery to 94 passively. No additional training required.

thanks for the advice

Another question, I know you cant 8x8 but for fast gains is a boat still the ticket?

Nah, febblemind yourself all the way up.

in magery? That would also be good for resist to aye?

No, Febblemind yourself for Eval. Yes, if you train resist with febbleminding yourself then you should be done with eval before your resist is finished.

Magery you can gain from casting on a vendor. Casting appropriate spells for skill level. A high minus mage weapon could help out a bit too.

"Ordo 4 Life yo, we roll mad deep"

i have a better question - what in the blue hell is "mad deep" ?

I have no clue to be honest, my little girl has a shirt that has a bunch of stuffed animals on it and thats what the shirt says on it

"We roll mad deep yo"

I thought it sounded funny so made it my title lol, I guess you are not gansta enough to understand it....fer real dog.

*throws up in his mouth a little*

Yea! yo :grin:

I trained Magery by casting spells onto my spellbook. My Eval just GMed on it's own while training Magery. Like Darius said you shouls use -magery items to lower your skill and cast easier/cheaper spells for gains.

Your Eval will GM before you magery, but the above 100, your magery gains are faster. I'm currently at 115 magery 112 Eval, 120 seems a long way off yet. A few more days training no doubt, but I need a 120 magery 1st, already got the eval scroll. Use a -29 wand to train with. Woirk up to 40 natural, then use a -20 black staff. Now train to 40 again, then equip the -29 wand. Make sure you have 2/6 casting, the wand will take you down to 1/6. Now you can train as high as you want.