We're all familiar with casting a wall to begin a duel. However, since someone griped at me the other day for "buffing too soon", I'd like to ask this:

Does the duel begin when the _entire_ wall is gone, or when the first piece disappears.

To me the answer is as soon as any of the three pieces vanishes. It's not like you can predict which one is going to go *poof* first. I think some people will cry over anything if they lose a duel but what do others think?

I say as soon as it starts crumbling, but many people have their own definations.

As soon as it starts to go and you have line of sight, it's on!

Well, it being a duel with rules, just call the rules in advance. They're artificial rules anyway, so there's nothing wrong with announcing them and making sure everyone's on board.

The only thing that matters is you kill the other person. Thinking about anything else only gives me a head ache and a foul taste for listening to them whine.

I'm getting rather fed up of the whole PvP scene at the moment. Got raided last night at a spawn by no fewer than 20 reds, there were 6 of us spawning. Was 20 really needed???? And even then they whined when they got killed by the remaining spawn.

Gankers and speedhackers (usually one in the same) are a pathetic excuse for reds. I can hold my own against any single person in a fair fight. In fact I can kill most in a fair fight. But the ganking tactics makes us run round in packs, for protection.

Of late sonoma has been invaded by some really bad PvPers. I lasted over 10 mins the other day against 6 reds. I only died cos I ran out of bandies. I took at least two down with me, and I'm a frigging archer!!!!! (Waits for the abuse from Bo......)

But then after they have ganked you, you instantly become a noob........... why is this when I can take any of them out 1v1. If you kill them, your still a noob, you just got lucky. All they do is smack talk, win or lose.

Congrats on the kill Terrance.

If someone is going to cry about dieing because you cast a buff spell a split second before they thought it was fair, there were going to die anyway.

I can't believe the excuses some people come up with, I can only believe 2 excuses when someone dies.

A. Lag
B. Hit wrong macro

No other excuse is viable.

Once the wall starts to drop, the fight begins. If it is a mage fight, this is a bigger deal then if it is a warrior dual sence you have to be in range of your foe. If they really want to complain about it, try this set up..

Have someone conjure up a summon. When that summon says their goodbye, the dual begins.

wall of stone drops and duel begins.

i see some people bless self before the wall drops (mage duel) i allways disliked this...and never bless mself in a duel unless the opponent does, then i will do the same.
standard is no prebuffs or casting of any sort untill wall drops tho.

i generally bless me and them and the reason i bless them is for 2 reasons: if they are red and they win the duel they do not have to worry about a count (not that i would count in a duel lol) and 2nd is so i have them on last target lol may be cheap but meh and i generally go when the wall is fully gone unless specified pre duel