Bloody Hell sounds about right. Sorry! Isn't it the 'Peter Principal" in motion? Or am I mistaking the source... something about people being promoted to their level of incompetancy and staying there.. sounds like there are a few of those sticking in your craw, big time. Hope it works out better sooner. Better yet, maybe someone will catch on and no... that would not work.. was gonna say maybe the 'upper management' would hire competant people to work with you, but that in itself is too unlikely to merit the thought... (((Huggs)))