the exact same just took out wrestle and put in spwv. the wrestle is on a stone just incase it doesnt work out in the long run. didnt find myself needing to disarm or stun punch any spawn, so i found using spellweaving in place of wrestle worked better for me

Sounds like a good option to me.

i hope u use a mage weapon of some sort for defensive purposes since you dont have wrestle...

nope. strictly a stayin alive character. heal, remove curse, cleanse by fire and spawn. when we get raided, I continue with spawn and dont usually get in the fights. i made it for spawning and pretty much thats it. i am trying to get my orny into it so I can use my mage weapon, but until then I stay as is.

u will get hit every single time by anything even if they have no weaponskill.
nevermind the pvpers that raid ya...u will get pwnt by direwolves lol

just because I dont have a weapon skill doesnt mean everything hits me every time. I have done probably about 30 spawns with this char since finishing him and he gets along just as fine as the wraith/witherers. Whenever things get too crowded, dispel evil works wonders. The wrestling was doing me no good at spawns, so thats why I switched it out for spellweaving, it was more effective to me. Attunement, gift of renewal & life, arcane empowerment. All very good spawn spells. The holy light doesnt work as well as wither, but I can cast it on the run, so it doesnt fizzle as much. I have rarely died doing the spawns too. I really like the char and do just fine without parry and wrestle. But like I said, hes strictly a survival char, and spawn char. When I want to fight people, I use my swordsman or necro/mage. Just gotta pick your battles..

try putting a mage weapon in you'r hands tho, it will work wonders trust me...
unless you need the book forcasting or something...if you wanna stay alive the mage weapon will help

Well, I can put a mage weapon in my hands, and it will only bring me down to 3/6 unless I use my Orny, but it drops my fire down to like 50 something. I dont like fire being that low. My brace I normally use is like 1/2 with fire. Plus with the scrappers, I get the SDI and it is great for spawns. I will not lose any LRC, LMC if I give up the scrappers as I am already at 40 if I replace the brace with my orny. But like I said, its mostly for the SDI, as there is no cap in pvm, which is what a spawn is until it hits the fan. Plus, I know that disarmers go for mage weapon holders first. It would drop me below 4/6 and there goes the quick heals and cures..... I was doing some swapping around last night, and decided that I might just keep the arcane/scrappers/swds of prosp in tow together so if we do get raided, I can swap out quick and be a viable pvp char. Its only an extra 300 gold from normal, and with the blessed stuff I wear I am already only worth 2400, so going to 3000 wouldnt be much of a loss. Now I just need to find new arms to support my mage weapon transfer....

well what ever works for u obviously...
on my necro I actually dropped eval and run w/ wrestle 120 and gm parry
had to drop medi down alot obviously...its down in the 50's now i think, but I have mass amounts of mana regen.
This lets me not worry about disarm gimps...plus I can disarm people, stun, and not worry about getting my butt kicked by dire wolves, lol.
Drawback obviously w/ no eval is no para fields...but we usually have enough other mages to cover that so I stick to efields and poison fields...and am able to stay alive better. We also usually have a peacer or 2 on hand so on this char Im able to both work the spawn via whither...yet also be semi-able to kill and stay alive in a raid.
I know Id probly do better w/ a mage weap, and bush instead of wrestle to spam evasion...but I refuse to play an evade mage.

I don't know why, but that just made me laugh a little bit.:grin: